Did Floyd Mayweather Win? Boxingscene Poll Says No.

[Kayjay's Ghost]

I don't want to make a thread about the scoring of last month's fight. There are other threads to bump.

One of the official judges had De La Hoya winning. So did Floyd's daddy. So there's company for those guys too. I'm not in that company.

I've said enough times on here that Floyd's dominance has led too many kids to misjudge fights. A lot of people treat dodging punches as if it should count by itself for boxing. Say A has B on the ropes and throws ten punches, all of which miss. B doesn't throw anything. Who is winning? Neither, but if it has to go to somone it goes to A.

[Technical_Skill]

I don't want to make a thread about the scoring of last month's fight. There are other threads to bump.

One of the official judges had De La Hoya winning. So did Floyd's daddy. So there's company for those guys too. I'm not in that company.

Those who scored for DLH are in the company of two blind men and a crackhead.

I've said enough times on here that Floyd's dominance has led too many kids to misjudge fights. A lot of people treat dodging punches as if it should count by itself for boxing. Say A has B on the ropes and throws ten punches, all of which miss. B doesn't throw anything. Who is winning? Neither, but if it has to go to somone it goes to A.

What relevance does this have to may 5th?, floyd hit oscar back with counters on the ropes, it wasnt like he was just dodging and didn't land.

Ask yourself,

1) Who landed more?
2) Who landed the more effective shots?
3) Who blocked more punches/ had the better defence?
4) Who had his legs buckled twice in the fight?

and no, you don't ever give a round to someone who doesn't land a single punch, even if the other guy doesn't land a single punch, its called a draw, you dont have to score it for anybody, thats the point.

[Kayjay's Ghost]

I had Floyd winning. That's beside the point.

And kids do score fights that way, that's why they think so many properly scored fights are 'robberries'.

But idiots like Tito Yuca (I won't apologize) and a bunch of other teeneage halfwits on here just learned what a shoulder roll is and they look only for that **** and forget that boxing is the art of beating people up using only your fists.

[Technical_Skill]

I had Floyd winning. That's beside the point.

And kids do score fights that way, that's why they think so many properly scored fights are 'robberries'.

But idiots like Tito Yuca (I won't apologize) and a bunch of other teeneage halfwits on here just learned what a shoulder roll is and they look only for that **** and forget that boxing is the art of beating people up using only your fists.

So you know more about boxing than Tito Yuca?

[Kayjay's Ghost]

I don't talk to Tito Yuca. I read his thread and realized what he is and that I have nothing to learn from him.

I have no interest in claiming to "know more" than others about boxing. There are people on this site who really know boxing, and I don't think either I or Tito Yuca are among them. You don't know but one or two of those people:

Juy; K-Dogg; Achilles; Rockin'; scap; BB; Buddy; RWK; a few others.

The rest of these kids don't have anything insightful to say about a fight.

[Technical_Skill]

I don't talk to Tito Yuca. I read his thread and realized what he is and that I have nothing to learn from him.

I have no interest in claiming to "know more" than others about boxing. There are people on this site who really know boxing, and I don't think either I or Tito Yuca are among them. You don't know but one or two of those people:

Juy; K-Dogg; Achilles; Rockin'; scap; BB; Buddy; RWK; a few others.

The rest of these kids don't have anything insightful to say about a fight.

I know every single name on that list but good for you, glad to know you have found about 8 people out of the 68,000 on boxing scene that you think something about boxing.

Take care.

[pbftxrs316]

me2007, wake up and smell the coffee man. a prime de la hoya would have still been slower than a prime mayweather. but, when was mayweather in his prime? some people say now. some people say at 130 and 135. i believe he was in his prime at 135 and 140. when was oscar in his prime, at 147? at 130? let's put them in the ring together at 140. i think this is fair. maywetaher crushes the living **** out of oscar. and this is no disrespect to oscar by no means. mayweather at 140 was a monster. i know he only fought a few fights there but he was just so fast and elusive with his upperbody movement. and he could take a punch well. oscar always had that famous left hook, but let's be honest, oscar in his prime still wouldn't land it too much on floyd in his prime. floyd had quicker upperbpdy movement at 140 then at 154 obviously. oscar was fast, no doubt, but he was still a one dimensional fighter. floyd was too elusive. personally, i would have like to see them fight at 135. i mean, floyd was calling out oscar in his 130s. he has wanted oscar for years, when oscar was in his prime.

and, as far as people claiming this and that about oscar being past his prime, that's funny to me. because, you are the same people who predicted that oscar would knock floyd out, while the real boxing fans like myself and technical skill saw the truth from the beginning. i posted so many times that floyd's upperbody movment was too quick for oscar. and it was. and this was floyd at his highest weight in a fight. add to this, floyd came in at 148, an doscar i heard came in at 160 something. so, oscar put on more weight, while floyd fought at welterweight, so he was even more quicker than oscar in the middle of the ring. floyd controlled the fight, because he was the smarter fighter. oscar pressed the fight, but he fought at the pace floyd wanted him to fight, because he tired out in the later rounds. you people need to go and watch the fight again. floyd threw his punches in spurts like he's mostly always done, and he stayed relaxed in the fight. oscar tried to overpower floyd, but floyd was the stronger fighter that night. he was the faster fighter that night. he was the better fighter that night. oscar missed so many punches on floyd when he had him on the ropes, yet, since the many in the crowd wouldn't know boxing if it knocked their asses out, they screamed and cheered for oscar when it looked like he was doing something, but only awwed slightly when floyd clearly landed shots, so of course, nobody took them seriously. add to that, when michael buffer announced the new superwelterweight champion of the world, the crowd cheered as if oscar won, not knowing that he was already the champion, so of course, i couldn;t take them seriously, seeing how they had the nerve to chant bull**** as floyd was giving his interview. georgle lopez and marc anthony are good at what they do, but come one, when it ocmes to watching boxing, let denzel and magic johnson score the fights. i mean, they come to boxing matches on a regular basis and actually have knowledge in boxing.

i socred the fight 9-3, mayweather jr. i gave oscar rounds 2, 6, and 7. round 8 imo was a close round so i wouldn't be mad if it went either way. i could see the fight, 8-4, mayweather jr, but i knew floyd would dominate the fight, even though oscar fought as hards as he could. he fought a mayweather fight. floyd stayed poise in the ring, and imo, since many of you claim that if oscar stayed with his jab, he could have won the fight, if floyd went to oscar's body more he could have kncked oscar down and out imo. when floyd hit oscar with a vicious two peice in the beginning of the 11th round( a left hook two oscar's chin and then the pit of his stomach), oscar made this noise like he was hurt bad by the punch. floyd seemed to just cruise throught the fight. he looked like he was bored in there with oscar imo. he really didn't look like the floyd i know, because when floyd threw his fast power punches on oscar, they clearly landed and they had snap to them also. floyd abandoned his shots to the body for some reason. i guess he felt he didn't have to go to the body. oscar went to floyd's body well when he threw body shots, but floyd's body shots were more crisp and had more effect than oscar's did imo. i feel floyd could have gotten oscar out of there a few times in the fight. round 5, round 11, and round 12, when he stumbled oscar after a right hand to oscar's forehead. i'm sure you guys saw it. after they locked up and got themselves free, floyd hit oscar in his forehead, and it wasn't a real cleanpunch, and oscar stumbled backwards, and the crowd just ohhhhed and awwwed. floyd shoudl have attacked oscar's body more than he did, like i knew he could. floyd has a vicious body attack skill and his punches to the body look cleam, good, and precise. floyd cruised through the fight imo and still dominated. people claimed that floyd had something to prove against oscar for his legacy and because he talked his trash, but oscar fought as if he was the one with something to prove, yet, still lost, and not by the scores he got, but by more.

[Steelhammer86]

One thing is certain about this fight, it was a close decision. Since a past prime De La Hoya came close to winning (in many peoples' opinion DLH actually did win, although in my opinion, PBF won a close decision).

Would De La Hoya in his prime - five to seven years ago - have defeated Floyd Mayweather? The answer is obviously yes.

[BmoreBrawler]

One thing is certain about this fight, it was a close decision. Since a past prime De La Hoya came close to winning (in many peoples' opinion DLH actually did win, although in my opinion, PBF won a close decision).

Would De La Hoya in his prime - five to seven years ago - have defeated Floyd Mayweather? The answer is obviously yes.

See, Im not so sure. I think that Floyd + balls beats oscar any day of the week and twice on sunday due to his good defense, accuracy, and reach advantage. However, in THIS PARTICULAR FIGHT I feel Oscar DID win because PBF came in with an amateur boxing game plan instead of a pro-level one and Oscar took advantage of it for enough rounds to win.

The fact of the matter is that boxing is judged round by round, so overall accuracy or effectiveness is meaningless. Oscar put things together IMO for enough rounds to win, though Floyd I think couldve KO'ed oscar if he had a pair.

[Addison]

You do realize that people don't like Mayweather because of the things he says, right? Hate carries over into irrationality. Nobody on the planet really thinks Oscar won that fight other than the non-boxing fans that packed that arena on May 5.

I agree.

I believe the Floyd thing is also racially based as well..


The amount of anger that people have for Mayweather is unfounded.

..........All sorts of alterior **** going on there..