Has anyone been aware of a "fixed" fight in boxing??

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  • Technical_Skill
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    #41
    DLH- Mayweather was an attempted fix imo, i stand by that as well, the cards were a little to close, one round the other way by roth and we would have had a convieniant controversial draw which would mean a big money rematch would have to happen.

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    • 1bad65
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      #42
      Originally posted by Hydro
      Very few people had bet on that fight, so a couple bets could've changed the odds dramatically.

      Thomas Hauser had a good article on that fight and the likely reasons for the questionable circumstances.
      It's not how many bet on it, it's how much money is bet. If just a few high rollers bet on a fight with little action, the odds can have a large shift.

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      • IchiBonDj
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        #43
        For George Foreman to defend his title against Axel Schulz, Arum had to pay the regular IBF sanctioning fee plus an extra $100 000 under the table. Schulz went on to dominate the fight yet Foreman won by a Majority decision. When the promoter of Schulz (Cedric Kushner) pushed for a rematch, he was told by the IBF that it could happen for, you guessed it $100 000. Kushner agreed to pay it but Foreman refused the rematch, he was stripped of his title and Kusher was out 100 G’s.

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        • werewolf
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          #44
          The perception (true or false) that he [Sonny Liston] hung-out with underworld types...


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          Give me a break! Did Sonny Liston hang out with underworld types? Does a bear **** in the woods?





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          • werewolf
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            #45
            Originally posted by hoganbest
            ......the odds on wlad -brewster dropped from 10-1 t0 3-1 hours before the bout........wlad subsequently dropped from "exhaustion" after only 5 rounds....hmm?

            Yep, that's a good way to see where the wise guys are putting their big money. I recall some of Golota's su****ious fights, the odds changing radically at the last minute.




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            • werewolf
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              #46
              Hitman, Jake -

              I know the guy who trained Melito. I just spoke to him last week.



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              • werewolf
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                #47
                Originally posted by squealpiggy
                There have been fixed matches but I don't think they're anywhere near as common as some of you are suggesting. More often the cheating takes the form of drugging fighters, using banned diuretics and blood transfusions so they can make weight, trainers loading gloves, referees being pressurised and maybe paid... SOme of the fights you are saying were fixed, it doesn't make sense. Why would you fix a fight against obviously inferior opposition? Fixing fights is primarily related to ********. You fix the fight so the favourite takes a dive, like LaMotta did against Fox. You don't fix it so the underdog takes a dive, what's the point?

                And don't forget all the crooked judges - Don King's friends and relations and employees. The gangsters who are intimately mixed up with boxing like to gamble, but they don't like to lose. It's easier to fix it so that your man is careful not to win than it is to fix it so that the other man loses. Some boxers are good actors, some aren't.




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                • werewolf
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by werewolf
                  Yep, that's a good way to see where the wise guys are putting their big money. I recall some of Golota's su****ious fights, the odds changing radically at the last minute.




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                  A LOT of the most su****ious fights have had odds that changed quickly at the last minute in favor of the boxer that eventually won. I'd like to know how the odds looked for those two Liston-Clay things. Clay, endlessly hyped by the media, had a lot of very crooked fights.



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                  • Hydro
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Panamaniac
                    The perception (true or false) that he hung-out with underworld types did nothing to enhance his credebility.
                    That wasn't just perception. The guy was basically managed by Frankie Carbo and Blinky Palermo.

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                    • AllEyesOpen
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Hydro
                      I think ref Zack Clayton reached the count of ten but commentator KFC Colonel Bob Sheridan was behind him in counting and was at 8.

                      Ali's corner had even come to Clayton earlier with money and told him to stop it if Ali was taking a horrible beating but wouldn't quit.

                      Foreman was mentally messed up for awhile after Zaire and is still making excuses for his loss and ****** perfomance.
                      Really, **** i gotta watch that again, great observation.

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