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De La Hoya-Hopkins is the only one I know for sure was fixed. Seldon just quit against Tyson. He was there for a paycheck, not to get hit, so he went down to shots to the gloves. I think the judges just screwed Sturm to make that fight with B-Hop. Fixed fights to me are where the winner is predetermined based on money. That's why I only think DLH-B-Hop was fixed...they became partners 2 weeks after that. I seriously doubt Oscar would ever pay money to a judge to give him a victory.
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List other fights that you think may have been "fixed" or you thought someone took a dive...
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Where to begin!? Boxing is a very crooked sport and it's getting worse instead of better. There is good evidence for so many fixed fights - fixed in one way or the other - fighters taking a dive, doping fighters, fixed gloves, even killing fighters (Kobozev), crooked refs and judges and matchmakers and house announcers playing the shill. PROVING all these things, however, is not all that simple. Don King and the Russian Mafiya don't leave paper trails and they have the money bags and the hired muscle and the politicians on the payroll to keep people in the know from testifying.
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I love this sport and yet I am not naive about its history. I would like to think that boxers no longer take a dive. I hope I am right.
But in answer to the question, no, I have never knowingly witnessed a boxer take a dive.Comment
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butterbean has staged a few fights...Comment
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I have never knowingly witnessed a boxer take a dive.
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Let's look at one su****ious fight - and Andrew Golota has had quite a few. Golota vs. Grant.
The head of the Polish Mafiya, a character known as "Pershing", came to the USA and took up residence at AG's training camp in Colorado. Refereeing the fight was the blatantly incompetant and crooked former NJ heavyweight champ (along with Chuck Wepner), Randy Neumann. George Foreman, the only honest announcer (before he sold out to get his job back) was even commenting on Neumann's crude and obvious favoritism to Grant. Anyway, Golota ahead on all cards, essentially just walked away from the fight after Neumann made a big show out of questioning him after the knockdown in round ten, instead of just waving him on to continue after he got up.
Right after the fight "Pershing" returned to Poland where he was promptly whacked. He had a lavish gangster funeral. Golota flew over to attend and pay his respects.
Golota, by the way, is scheduled to fight in Poland next week.
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Tim "Doc" Anderson said he threw some fights or was drugged by his manager before losing a fight.
He later killed that manager.Comment
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Tim "Doc" Anderson said he threw some fights or was drugged by his manager before losing a fight.
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I've been around a lot of druggies and junkies. As soon as I took a look at Golota after he finally showed up in a squad car (!) for his big fight with Lennox Lewis and went into the ring - the moment I saw him and his glassy eyes, I said, "He's been drugged!" That was before the fight started or anything.
Tyson appeared to be on cloud nine for his Lennox Lewis fight too. And I think that Lewis' gloves might have been trifled with when he fought Vitali Klitschko and cut up his face so badly. Vitali's face had never been cut before, neither in the amateurs nor pros.
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tyson- mcneely.He didnt even hit him when mcneely fell the first time. I saw it in slow mo and in another angle.Comment
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After Byrd received one of his many phony decision wins, this one vs. Oquendo, George Foreman became irate and said on the air that boxers, like Oquendo, should stop putting up with that sort of thing and just meekly accepting it, and then he said that they were the best judges that money could...leaving unsaid "buy". Foreman was immediately fired - resigned, they called it.
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