Hatton: "I'm Convinced I Can Beat Mayweather"
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I don't think it would fall on either fighter as such. It's up to a fighters' negotiating team to make arrangements and strike a deal. I really don't believe that world champions duck one another out of fear.Comment
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Your right I should of said hatton's camp not just hatton. I remember when hatton and cotto came to see the gatti/floyd fight so i understand why they didn't want to sign the fight after that. Either way people are always looking for someone to upset floyd but that's what happens when your the best fighter in the world. I just like to watch fight after fight when floyd wins than they pull another name out of the hat to upset him.Last edited by bdevils; 05-27-2007, 04:24 PM.Comment
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What the ****? Floyd was trying to get Oscar and Mosley to fight him, but Oscar was deciding wheather he wanted to retire or not (eventually said he wouldn't retire but wouldn't fight again in 2006) and Shane was talkin that toothache ****. Also, he was talking with Spinks - he was going to go up to 154 to challenge the main guy there, a fight that was 99% a done deal. When it folded, he then took on the recognized WW champ in Baldomir. So that's FOUR fights out there.Comment
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Dunno what fight you were watchin, Baldomir landed once or twice the whole fight on mayweather's body, there is a difference between getting a few shots in after throwing hundreds of punches, and being hit continuosly to the body till you are clearly hurt, as was Hatton against urango.
I have seen that guy, is he ripped and in shape 365 days a year? does he spar 15 minute rounds to train for a fight? Strength is needed for stamina, the more weights you lift, the more weight resistance you can take, thus why people go to the gym, they become stronger and have the stamina to push themselves more and more. (well some people anyways)Yes Urango is stronger them Mayweather, have you seen that guy? No he would not last 12 rounds against De La Hoya. But that's completely irrelevant, Urango wouldn't last 12 rounds with De La Hoya because he doesn't have Floyd Mayweather's defensive ability, strength has little to do with how long he lasts in a boxing match. It does affect the tactics you use against a fighter though.
Ricky did outbox him for 8 or so rounds, then the huggin started, and there is a difference between outboxing juan urango, and outboxing floyd mayweather.
If it was just a bad night, Why didnt he rematch him then? after the interview he promised collazo a rematch to set the record straight, then he went and fought Urango instead
As i have said before, this fight totally depends on Mayweather, i dont think ricky has the footwork to make mayweather have to fight, if mayweather chooses to go in the pocket, which i think he would, there isnt much hatton can do about it, if mayweather chooses to fight from the outside, nothing much hatton can do about it,If Ricky tries to box Mayweather he loses big. If he turns it into a fight then he makes it competitive. Hatton doesn't have Mayweather's extraordinary skills or physical attirubtes, but he does have attributes of his own. Dismissing them out of hand is a little naive.
All this stuff about hatton 'walking though punches' is a myth, he did it once against a shot tszyu, collzao almost stopped him on their fight and urango hurt him in that fight too, mayweather would definatley hurt him, he had oscar legs buckling twice in that fight and weighted 148 against a middleweight puncher.
He doesnt have the movement to be able to make mayweather uncomfortable imo, mayweather can win too many different ways, from the outside, in the pocket, he can single shot pot-shot him from angles, hatton has basic defenisve flaws with simple punches like leads, isn't particulary fast enough to land on mayweather, hasnt knocked anyone out of note out with a head shot in his divsion (i think anyways) so i dont think he is all that powerful to the head
and he has never shown that he is gonna be the guy that really hurts mayweather, better fighters than Hatton have been beaten convincingly trying to rush and brawl with floyd, i dont think that tactic works.Comment
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Oh yes, Spinks, that was it. Oscar was retired, Mosley was out of action due to poor dentistry, so it was fight Margarito for 8 million or fight light-punching Spinks for less, and Mayweather's camp was leaning towards Spinks as I remember...What the ****? Floyd was trying to get Oscar and Mosley to fight him, but Oscar was deciding wheather he wanted to retire or not (eventually said he wouldn't retire but wouldn't fight again in 2006) and Shane was talkin that toothache ****. Also, he was talking with Spinks - he was going to go up to 154 to challenge the main guy there, a fight that was 99% a done deal. When it folded, he then took on the recognized WW champ in Baldomir. So that's FOUR fights out there.
The Baldomir fight only became available after the Spinks fight fell through,Comment
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No his more bothered about defending his ibo belt against CastilloOriginally Posted by Randall_Hopkirk
Witter's not a big name in the US or UK, plus Hatton is not that bothered about an ABC belt.Comment
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Hatton was hurt once in the Urango fight in the fifth round. He wasn't hurt continuously. Baldomir only caught Floyd once or twice but my position is if slow Carlos can trap him once or twice, Richy Hatton could expect to trap him more often.Dunno what fight you were watchin, Baldomir landed once or twice the whole fight on mayweather's body, there is a difference between getting a few shots in after throwing hundreds of punches, and being hit continuosly to the body till you are clearly hurt, as was Hatton against urango.
Urango is bigger and stronger than Floyd Mayweather. I don't see how that is a debatable or controversial statement. Mayweather is a better boxer and a better fighter by far than Urango, but that doesn't make him physically stronger. That was a major factor in making Hatton box as he did nstead of trying to back him up. That's smart fighting, not a sign of weakness.I have seen that guy, is he ripped and in shape 365 days a year? does he spar 15 minute rounds to train for a fight? Strength is needed for stamina, the more weights you lift, the more weight resistance you can take, thus why people go to the gym, they become stronger and have the stamina to push themselves more and more. (well some people anyways)
I completely agree with this, but I wouldn't expect Hatton to even try outboxing Mayweather. It just wouldn't make sense.Ricky did outbox him for 8 or so rounds, then the huggin started, and there is a difference between outboxing juan urango, and outboxing floyd mayweather.
I don't have all the answers, but I do know that a rematch with Collazo wasn't approved by HBO. Who knows, maybe he'll get a rematch later. I'd like to see it, for one.If it was just a bad night, Why didnt he rematch him then? after the interview he promised collazo a rematch to set the record straight, then he went and fought Urango instead
This is where I have to disagree with you, but that's OK. I'm a Hatton fan and I do let fandom speak every now and again. I think Hatton could trap Mayweather at the ropes frequently because in my opinion he is better at that sort of game than anyone Mayweather has fought with the possible exception of Castillo.As i have said before, this fight totally depends on Mayweather, i dont think ricky has the footwork to make mayweather have to fight, if mayweather chooses to go in the pocket, which i think he would, there isnt much hatton can do about it, if mayweather chooses to fight from the outside, nothing much hatton can do about it,
I think that Tszyu hits harder than Mayweather and Hatton walked through those. Rick has been dropped once and it was a southpaw right hook that did it. And it was a southpaw right hook that started his bad patch against Collazo in the 12th. I still don't subscribe to the notion that he was "almost knocked out". He started the round strong and finished the round strong and looking in trouble for as much as 20 seconds. It was enough to lose the round but not even close to being KO'd.All this stuff about hatton 'walking though punches' is a myth, he did it once against a shot tszyu, collzao almost stopped him on their fight and urango hurt him in that fight too, mayweather would definatley hurt him, he had oscar legs buckling twice in that fight and weighted 148 against a middleweight puncher.
I can't see too many people knocking Mayweather out with a headshot anyway, he's just to hard to hit clean. Hatton isn't a big one-shot KO guy (though he has finished numerous fights with headshots, most recently Maussa) but he could wear down Mayweather for a late stoppage. Any win however would be more likely to be a decision win and a close one at that. That's the best case scenario, at least until Floyd shows signs of slipping physically.He doesnt have the movement to be able to make mayweather uncomfortable imo, mayweather can win too many different ways, from the outside, in the pocket, he can single shot pot-shot him from angles, hatton has basic defenisve flaws with simple punches like leads, isn't particulary fast enough to land on mayweather, hasnt knocked anyone out of note out with a head shot in his divsion (i think anyways) so i dont think he is all that powerful to the head
No they haven't. The only fighter who is better than Hatton who has tried that tactic was De La Hoya, and in doing so De La Hoya was far away from his own usual game. Castillo came close by making it a rough fight, and that's what Hatton would have to do too.and he has never shown that he is gonna be the guy that really hurts mayweather, better fighters than Hatton have been beaten convincingly trying to rush and brawl with floyd, i dont think that tactic works.Comment
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