How Has best talent Roy Jones or Floy Mayweather

[Mr. Ryan]

umm...was he a bust against Hopkins and Toney?

Against Hopkins, yeah he was. There was nothing flashy or special about how Jones won against Hopkins, who was green and raw as hell compared to what he would become later in the decade. Hopkins' patient style made Jones look awkward at moments trying to land solidly. As for the Toney fight, Jones did great but Toney simply wasn't nearly as well-conditioned as he should've been.

[Mr. Ryan]

He looked pretty good against James Toney who's pretty technical himself. He pitched a shutout with 2 knockdowns against Reggie Johnson who gave Tarver a tough SD fight years later. KO'ed Griffin in spectacular fashion. He broke Virgil Hills ribs & KO'ed him with a single body punch. He toyed with Julio Cesar Gonzalez in a lopsided decision (knocking him down a couple times) who won a piece of the Light Heavy crown by beating Darius M. That's what I can name off the top of my head. I think the glass jaw thing is debatable. I mean it's not like he didn't get hit from his opponents.

All of these fighters, Johnson, Griffin, Gonzalez, Hill, were good fighters. None of them were great. I mean Mayweather has names, Diego Corrales, Oscar De La Hoya, Jose Luis Castillo, good fighters that will stand Mayweather in good light.

[SkillspayBills]

Natural talent will have to go to Jones. He had everything you would want if you wanted to be a great fighter.

[robjr]

prety sure yall can figure my answer to this thread..

[SkillspayBills]

prety sure yall can figure my answer to this thread..

Those 4 hooks in a row should answer that question.

[robjr]

Floyds great. but at the end of the day.. prime for prime.. anything floyd can do Roy can do better..

and let the hating on robjr begin.....

heres the reminder just incase some yall musta forgotttttttt..

[SkillspayBills]

Floyds great. but at the end of the day.. prime for prime.. anything floyd can do Roy can do better..

and let the hating on robjr begin.....

heres the reminder just incase some yall musta forgotttttttt..

Roy, at any point in his career, wasn't as technically sound as Floyd is or was. That being said Roy's natural ability made up for anything he lacked technically.

[superchamp]

I wouldn't say he was a bust against Hopkins. Jones was fairly green at the time as well (his first world title fight), and he still comfortably beat Hopkins, with a bad hand to boot. Hopkins may have improved after that fight, but so did Jones.

And could we not also say that Mayweather's performances in the first Castillo fight and the De La Hoya fight were also busts because he wasn't able to dominate.

I mean, you're not going to dominate every fighter and style put in front of you to the same level, especially when you start moving up in weight.

[superchamp]

PS -- and to this day, nobody has beat Hopkins as clearly as Jones (or at all).

[El Chicano]

Roy hands down, there is no other. RJ in his prime will never be remade. Floyd is a poor mans Roy.