Jermain Taylor is P4P #1 on my list

[GunStar]

So what if the fight was stopped on a broken nose? Who do you think broke it? Thats a legit TKO. And Larios stopped Vasquez early in his career, and he avenged the loss. He was probably top 15 p4p in most lists before Marquez beat him. I dont think he deserves to be number 1 either, but hes more skilled than Taylor.

You don't even know if Vazquez was in the top 15, you're going with probably was, last time I checked Rafa never fought anyone in top 10 P4P list, Taylor fought the P4P #1 and P4P #2 three times.

Rafa is not more skilled then Taylor, you gotta be kidding me with that one.

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Rafa moved up once in a fight that was stopped because Israel Vazquez had a broken nose and could not continue idiot.

Rafa only moved up once and he only moved up from bantamweight to super bantamweight against a guy that was stopped by Oscar Larrios mother fanker.

LOL... Vazquez is 2-1 with Larios, so what's your point? it's not like larios is exactly ****.

Taylor barely beat a welter who had already been KOed at welter

Do you actually know the weight difference between bantamweight and super bantamweight?? I guess not mother fanker.

4 pounds is still a lot more than 0.

do you know the difference between middle and supermiddle? do you know there are bones in the human body?

Do we have to add anatomy, alongside boxing and logic in the list of areas of human knowledge you dont know **** about?

Your ******ity just amazes me, Rafa never has beaten anyone that was in the top 10 P4P, like the way Taylor has done.

you mean "the way" Taylor beat Hopkins and draw with Wright: close, boring controversial fights, in which he was outlanded (ALL THREE OF THEM), and a large enough number of experts and fans thought he lost.

Yes Rafa never beaten anyone p4p "the way" Taylor did. Let me add, he never beat anyone at all "the way Taylor did.

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Taylor is more skilled then all 3, you just failed!

HAHAHAHHAHAHAA

I bothered answering the other post before reading this one, you are a joke.

Rafa and Hatton are both MILES ahead Taylor in terms of skills.

Both of them, and that includes Hatton... who is able to take the fight where he wants.

What is Taylor's skill?
is it running out of gas if he throws more than 3 punches per round?
or is it leaving himself open to all sorts of counters?
or is it his lunging everytime he throw a straight shot?
or is it not being able to take the fight in any part of the ring his opponent does not deeply desire to be in?
or his special ears, which allow him to not hear what his trainer is saying?

or is it getting gifts because he is HBO baby?

Real soon you are going to start answering with your ****** smilies because you ain't got anything relevant to say, as usual.

[GunStar]

LOL... Vazquez is 2-1 with Larios, so what's your point? it's not like larios is exactly ****.

Taylor barely beat a welter who had already been KOed at welter



4 pounds is still a lot more than 0.

do you know the difference between middle and supermiddle? do you know there are bones in the human body?

Do we have to add anatomy, alongside boxing and logic in the list of areas of human knowledge you dont know **** about?



you mean "the way" Taylor beat Hopkins and draw with Wright: close, boring controversial fights, in which he was outlanded (ALL THREE OF THEM), and a large enough number of experts and fans thought he lost.

Yes Rafa never beaten anyone p4p "the way" Taylor did. Let me add, he never beat anyone at all "the way Taylor did.

Vazquez also was knocked in the first round by the bum Flores.

Spinks was only stopped once in his career, because he thought he could stop Judah, he took chances against Judah you moron, he never took any chances against Taylor. BTW Taylor clearly won the fight.

4 pound is nothing mother fanker, we all knew Rafa was too big for the bantamweight.

Taylor clearly beat Hopkins twice, the same Hopkins that was ranked P4P #1 in the world, the Wright fight was a draw and he didn't lose to Wright.
Do I actually care some people thought he lost some of the fights, NOOOOO! BTW Taylor won the ESPN polls with 20000+ votes, so more people thought Taylor won the fights, if that makes you happy.

The difference is both Hopkins and Wright are P4P #1 and #2, you just failed because Rafa never fought anyone that is in the top 10 P4P, so your arguemnet is weak as usual, once again you made an ass out of yourself mother fanker.

[GunStar]

HAHAHAHHAHAHAA

I bothered answering the other post before reading this one, you are a joke.

Rafa and Hatton are both MILES ahead Taylor in terms of skills.

Both of them, and that includes Hatton... who is able to take the fight where he wants.

What is Taylor's skill?
is it running out of gas if he throws more than 3 punches per round?
or is it leaving himself open to all sorts of counters?
or is it his lunging everytime he throw a straight shot?
or is it not being able to take the fight in any part of the ring his opponent does not deeply desire to be in?
or his special ears, which allow him to not hear what his trainer is saying?

or is it getting gifts because he is HBO baby?

Real soon you are going to start answering with your ****** smilies because you ain't got anything relevant to say, as usual.

Sorry I have to, you just once again yourself mother fanker.

Rafa and Hatton are both MILES ahead Taylor in terms of skills. This is classic ****!

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Vazquez also was knocked in the first round by the bum Flores.

Spinks was only stopped once in his career, because he thought he could stop Judah, he took chances against Judah you moron, he never took any chances against Taylor. BTW Taylor clearly won the fight.

4 pound is nothing mother fanker, we all knew Rafa was too big for the bantamweight.

Taylor clearly beat Hopkins twice, the same Hopkins that was ranked P4P #1 in the world, the Wright fight was a draw and he didn't lose to Wright.
Do I actually care some people thought he lost some of the fights, NOOOOO! BTW Taylor won the ESPN polls with 20000+ votes, so more people thought Taylor won the fights, if that makes you happy.

The difference is both Hopkins and Wright are P4P #1 and #2, you just failed because Rafa never fought anyone that is in the top 10 P4P, so your arguemnet is weak as usual, once again you made an ass out of yourself mother fanker.

you say Taylor beat two p4p, I say look at how he beat them. Then look at how Rafa beats his (admitteldy less stellar, no problem) opposition.

Now look at how Taylor beats Ouma and Spinks, which are perfectly in line, if not weaker with Rafa's opposition, and shut the **** up, clown.

Taylor looked like **** against pound for pounders and looked like **** against lesser oppositions. At least Rafa looks good against the lesser oppositions.

Taylor clearly beat Hopkins OMG... it was really clear, a clear cut victory, he took the title away from the champ. But, oddly enough, he was the one hanging on for dear life and outlanded at the end of the fight. Mind, I dont have that much of a problem on scoring fights one way or another, but saying that those fights were clear is ridiculous, like most of your posts are.

BTW I already had pbf #1 after the Eastman fight, and I was having my doubts already after the Allen fight, but what do you know? you probaly saw hopkins fight twice. anyway, he was still no.2 in my book.

4 pounds is nothing according to your opinion, based on nothing.

"we all knew he was too big..." Rafa made 118 for 12 years, clown

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Sorry I have to, you just once again yourself mother fanker.

Rafa and Hatton are both MILES ahead Taylor in terms of skills. This is classic ****!

it is the simple truth...

Taylor only has a decent jab, you still have to mention ANY of Taylor's skills.
You are going around talking **** on how Taylor is skilled, and you still have to mention his skills.

Rafa is by far more skilled, only an idiot (like you) would think anything different: better offense from the outside, at midrange and on the outside, better defense, better form, better ring generalship. Skillwise Taylor aint got **** on rafa.

Hatton uses angles, cuts off the ring, has great bodywork, very good inside fighting, even his "wrestling" is done with a purpose, which it serves well.

What does Taylor have? A jab which he cannot even throw consistently because he gasses out...

[GunStar]

you say Taylor beat two p4p, I say look at how he beat them. Then look at how Rafa beats his (admitteldy less stellar, no problem) opposition.

Now look at how Taylor beats Ouma and Spinks, which are perfectly in line, if not weaker with Rafa's opposition, and shut the **** up, clown.

Taylor looked like **** against pound for pounders and looked like **** against lesser oppositions. At least Rafa looks good against the lesser oppositions.

Taylor clearly beat Hopkins OMG... it was really clear, a clear cut victory, he took the title away from the champ. But, oddly enough, he was the one hanging on for dear life and outlanded at the end of the fight. Mind, I dont have that much of a problem on scoring fights one way or another, but saying that those fights were clear is ridiculous, like most of your posts are.

BTW I already had pbf #1 after the Eastman fight, and I was having my doubts already after the Allen fight, but what do you know? you probaly saw hopkins fight twice. anyway, he was still no.2 in my book.

4 pounds is nothing according to your opinion, based on nothing.

"we all knew he was too big..." Rafa made 118 for 12 years, clown

Listen you ******, I'm not going to waste my time debating your ******ed views, you are the ****ing idiot who thinks Rafa could very well be at number one.

Let me explain to you ****er, Rafa already lost 3 ****ing times in his career and he lost to Genaro Garcia and you have the mother ****ing nerves to bring up the Ouma and Spinks fights, which both fights Taylor clearly won.

Taylor is ****ing undefeated, Rafa lost 3 times already, Taylor fought the better oppositions.

The first Hopkins fight was not close, **** you can't win a fight winning the last 3 rounds, Hopkins won only the last 3 rounds, if that is not a clear win for Taylor, then I don't know what is. Taylor clearly won 7 rounds in the first fight which is 4 more then Hopkins 3 clear rounds.

The second fight was a little closer but anyone that is not blind knew Taylor won 7 rounds in that second fight too.

The Wright fight was a draw and could've gone either way, that's why I want to see rematch.

Unlike you I don't like repeating the same garbage like you do.

Who gives a **** who you had at #1, the point is Hopkins was #1 in the world at the time he lost to Taylor and Wright is #2, Rafa never fought anyone as good as Hopkins or Wright, if he did, he would lose every round to those kind of boxers.

Anyone that knows a little about boxing knows that Rafa was a big bantamweight, so gaining 4 pounds is nothing big.

You're an A class idiot and thank you for proving it once again, oh wait let me guess you will repeat the same garbage in your next post.

[GunStar]

it is the simple truth...

Taylor only has a decent jab, you still have to mention ANY of Taylor's skills.
You are going around talking **** on how Taylor is skilled, and you still have to mention his skills.

Rafa is by far more skilled, only an idiot (like you) would think anything different: better offense from the outside, at midrange and on the outside, better defense, better form, better ring generalship. Skillwise Taylor aint got **** on rafa.

Hatton uses angles, cuts off the ring, has great bodywork, very good inside fighting, even his "wrestling" is done with a purpose, which it serves well.

What does Taylor have? A jab which he cannot even throw consistently because he gasses out...

Please continue owning yourself, you're really are an idiot to even compare Rafa and Hatton skills to Taylor.

This **** is so ****ing bad, I don't even want to waste my time debating **** like this.

I'm done with you, please continue repeating the same garbage so I can have another good laugh mother fanker.

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it is good to know you can communicate without smilies, maye we can welcome your pathetic little mind to civilization.

and by the way I saw my karma page... you are a pathetic ***** with a lot of time to waste on giving karma

Listen you ******, I'm not going to waste my time debating your ******ed views, you are the ****ing idiot who thinks Rafa could very well be at number one.

that must be why you wrote this long answer

Let me explain to you ****er, Rafa already lost 3 ****ing times in his career and he lost to Genaro Garcia and you have the mother ****ing nerves to bring up the Ouma and Spinks fights, which both fights Taylor clearly won.

let me point out, little *****, that Marquez last loss was 7 years ago, I judge fighters based on what they could do now, not on what they were able to do 7 years ago.

7 years ago Taylor was not even a pro, so by your ******ed logic he should definitely not be p4p.

Taylor is ****ing undefeated, Rafa lost 3 times already, Taylor fought the better oppositions.

Again, that was 7 years ago.

In the last 7 years,
When taylor fought better opposition then Rafa he looked like ****.
When taylor fought opposition of similar caliber he looked like ****, too.

The first Hopkins fight was not close, **** you can't win a fight winning the last 3 rounds, Hopkins won only the last 3 rounds, if that is not a clear win for Taylor, then I don't know what is. Taylor clearly won 7 rounds in the first fight which is 4 more then Hopkins 3 clear rounds.

your scorecards reflect your opinion, your opinion is not the truth. hence reading your scorecards does not make those fight less close than they actually were,

The second fight was a little closer but anyone that is not blind knew Taylor won 7 rounds in that second fight too.

again your opinion does not make the fight less close. In this case your opinion is closer to mine (I think I had this one for taylor).

The Wright fight was a draw and could've gone either way, that's why I want to see rematch.

Taylor still looked lost against the naturally smaller, older man.

Unlike you I don't like repeating the same garbage like you do.

LOL, you dont even repeat arguments, you usually repeat smilies and insults

Who gives a **** who you had at #1, the point is Hopkins was #1 in the world at the time he lost to Taylor na dWright is #2, Rafa never fought anyone as good as Hopkins or Wright, if he did, he would lose every round to those kind of boxers.

obviously I give a ****, since p4p was subjective then, as it is now. If I disagreed with ring magazine yesterday, why should i use their rankings to determine today. It is a matter of consistency, but your only brain cell is already tired from typing all of the above so I will pass on that.

If Wright was number two, behind pbf when he drew with the bigger, younger taylor how could taylor ever be ahead of him now?

Rafa would lose to a bantam equivalent of Wright and Hopkins? why? because you say so? and who the **** are you exactly? what is your uneducated guess worth?

Anyone that knows a little about boxing knows that Rafa was a big bantamweight, so gaining 4 pounds is nothing big.

It is a lot bigger than feeding on smaller men, like taylor does.

You're an A class idiot and thank you for proving it once again, oh wait let me guess you will repeat the same garbage in your next post.

your guess is wrong, as most of what you write