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  • Derranged_
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    #31
    Originally posted by SquareCircle
    jason estrada and chris arreola are what we got...Arreola is going to get his ass kicked once he gets to the top. Estrada is skilled, however.
    I just read somewhere that Estrada has had over 250 amateur fights! Pretty impressive, but when it comes to pros he doesn't seem like he has the passion that he must have had in the amateurs. I've seen him fight a couple of time and he has a 'lackadaisical' style which earns him decisions but only one KO in his 10 pro fight career.

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    • Hitman932
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      #32
      Originally posted by BostonGuy
      I just read somewhere that Estrada has had over 250 amateur fights! Pretty impressive, but when it comes to pros he doesn't seem like he has the passion that he must have had in the amateurs. I've seen him fight a couple of time and he has a 'lackadaisical' style which earns him decisions but only one KO in his 10 pro fight career.
      johnathon banks, though he fights at cruiser, is a better heavyweight prospect than everyone mentioned so far with the exception of arreola..

      id like to see banks fight matt godfrey and then challenge for a world title. he has a stay busy fight scheduled against lloyd bryan right now and im sure he is in the top-10 of the WBO already..

      a lot of these guys are screwing around for 25 fights against bums padding up their records, banks on the other hand will have (hopefully) a world title by his 20th fight and some serious career momentum when he moves up... id say he could carry 225 pounds quite well.

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      • SquareCircle
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        #33
        Originally posted by BostonGuy
        I just read somewhere that Estrada has had over 250 amateur fights! Pretty impressive, but when it comes to pros he doesn't seem like he has the passion that he must have had in the amateurs. I've seen him fight a couple of time and he has a 'lackadaisical' style which earns him decisions but only one KO in his 10 pro fight career.
        He really made Yanqui Diaz look bad in their outing.

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        • -Antonio-
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          #34
          I doubt Chambers becomes a great fighter. Maybe a titlist though. I think the same thing about Brock.

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          • Derranged_
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            #35
            Originally posted by -Antonio-
            I doubt Chambers becomes a great fighter. Maybe a titlist though. I think the same thing about Brock.
            I doubt either of those guys will ever win a title; I like to think that W. Klitschko and Sam Peter will dominate the division and unify, at least partially..

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            • italianmafia23
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              #36
              Arreola is a heavy hitting crowd pleasing bruiser of a heavyweight, but he lacks the potential to contend at a high level with tough competition on a consistent enough basis to be considered great in my opinion. I'm probably the only one here who has seen Eddie Chambers fight more than a half dozen times in the past 5 years and he has continued to improve and win more impressively even as his competition got tougher. He consistently dominates the scorecards and has above average ring intelligence, movement, defense and pretty good hand speed for a heavyweight. I've also seen him land some very powerful shots, so I'm pretty sure he has the power to knock people out, he just doesn't utilize this aspect of his repertoire all to often for some reason, and he needs to work on that.

              I see Eddie Chambers as a more promising prospect with more upside than Arreola, and I think he could be a quality top rank heavyweight in the future IF he can fine tune his power punching ability. Or, he may never develop the consistent power punch he is capable of and for that reason or another he could end up as a bust, who knows. He certainly hasn't fought anywhere near quality competition throughout most of his career up until recently...

              Arreola has the more entertaining fighting style though, which is why he has a larger fan base and a greater volume of supporters/believers, but I don't see anything overly special. Once he fights top competition he will be tested and I believe more often than not will be outlasted and sometimes out classed unless his opponents unwisely decide to slug it out, which I see unlikely. Arreola is fighting his best right now and I don't see much room for improvement as far as his potential goes which makes me question his future value.

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              • Dorian
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                #37
                Vitali is back he'll win some of the title s and Wlad will take what's left...

                were gonna get used to seeing these russians own the HW devision

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                • Feint
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                  #38
                  I could care less where the next great fighter comes from. I just enjoy seeing talented fighters.

                  But in answer to the question, Michael Marrone has a chance to be pretty good. Also, if Tommy Zbikowski turns out to have any talent at all (or even sticks to boxing) he has a chance to do well just for the fact alone he already has a lot of publicity behind him.

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                  • bengidaro
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                    #39
                    I think Arreola needs to prove himself before we can talk about him being "great" down the road. I also heard Joe Mesi who I'm a fan of but he is getting up there in years. Chambers has potential. He also has a lot of time to work on his game because he's only 25.

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                    • me2007
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                      #40
                      what is Mesi actually doing? Why isn`t he fighting the top guys

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