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  • italianmafia23
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    #21
    Originally posted by BostonGuy
    I don't necessarily agree on the 'age' factor; I think Mesi's a young 32 and has not taken alot of punishment in his career, save the Jirov fight. As for unifying the titles, I don't think that this will happen but I do think that he could possibly win one of the titles that are floating around. What Joe has to do is start fighting some decent competition so that the boxing world can see how deserving he is of a top ten ranking and eventual title shot. I like that he's been so busy but his level of competition isn't helping to make the case...
    One would think subdural hematoma is an indication of heavy physical punishment. You don't get bleeding around the brain without punishment.

    Mesi did fight a quality Heavyweight in Monte Barrett that aired on HBO back in 2003 prior to his subdural hematoma condition. It was an exciting fight that saw each fighter knocked down as Mesi won a majority decision. Barret was down in the 5th, Mesi in the 7th.

    The two year absense from boxing really appeared to create a lot of ring rust. Prior to the injury Mesi was on the rise, but since then he has had a few lack luster victories against low rank opponents which doesn't do much to garner attention. His fights against Ronald Bellamy (14-4-4) and Stephane Tessier (3-7) are two prime examples. They were his first two opponents after suffering his subdural hematoma injury.

    As boxrec put it: "Mesi clearly outmached Tessier, but in turn was clearly not at 100% due to his 2-year absence from the ring; he seemed to lack the hand speed that characterized his earlier fights, and could not generate enough power to knock Tessier down. In a post-fight interview, Mesi indicated his frustration that Tessier could land punches on him; before his layoff, Mesi contended, Tessier wouldn't have been able to lay a glove on him.

    Tessier was announced as Mesi's opponent only a day or so before the fight."

    Also for the record, Mesi is 33 and will turn 34 in November. I agree with his activity though, he has kept busy, but in so doing has lost credibility by choosing easy low rank, low risk opponents.

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    • Steelhammer86
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      #22
      The tendency to choose "safe" fights is hurting American heavyweight boxing. For example, JD Chapman and Chazz Witherspoon have not fought a single really tough journeyman yet. If they ever get a title shot, they'll be poorly prepared, they can only improve by fighting better opponents. Only Eddie Chambers and Chris Arreola have been tested with solid journeymen, and they've both passed (Arreola gets an "A" grade for his recent KO and now seems to be the best American heavyweight prospect).

      Similarly, some of the best American heavyweights are either inactive (Ty Fields) or fighting weaker opponents (Calvin Brock). Ty needs to fight more often, Calvin should fight better opponents.
      Last edited by Steelhammer86; 05-14-2007, 07:35 PM.

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      • beez721
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        #23
        Originally posted by paul750
        I still don't think they're rule the division, they'll have success certainly, but there will be plenty of heavyweights from elsewhere winning titles IMO.
        I dont see any evolving. its going to be a long time before we get a solid american champ at heavyweight

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        • beez721
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          #24
          Originally posted by BostonGuy
          I agree with this statement but let me take it a bit further....We need a unified hw champion who's willing to fight the best and fight somewhat frequently and I think that Wlad Klitschko may be that guy..Anyway, if you're looking for a good American hw, try checking out Joe Mesi. Mesi's undefeated at 36-0 and is determined to get back into the top ten.
          the problem with mesi is his durability. he came close to getting stopped by both light hitting monte barret and blown up cruiserweight jirov both of whom cant crack an egg at heavyweight. makes you cringe to imagine mesi in there with even a descent punching heavyweight that can bring it

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          • beez721
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            #25
            Originally posted by BmoreBrawler
            Hasim Rahman + Brain = Next great american heavyweight. Too bad brains dont come easy these days.
            lol,,,if rahman is our american hope were really in trouble

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            • The Fix
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              #26
              relentless lamon brewster....

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                #27
                Originally posted by beez721
                the problem with mesi is his durability. he came close to getting stopped by both light hitting monte barret and blown up cruiserweight jirov both of whom cant crack an egg at heavyweight. makes you cringe to imagine mesi in there with even a descent punching heavyweight that can bring it
                Even though I'm biased when it comes to Mesi, I really don't know what to make of him these days. He's been fighting quiet often but not at the level where you can make a sound judgement on his progress or lack thereof. If after his next fight he doesn't step up then I'm not going to get my hopes up..

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                • SquareCircle
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                  #28
                  jason estrada and chris arreola are what we got...Arreola is going to get his ass kicked once he gets to the top. Estrada is skilled, however.

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                  • totalstranga
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                    #29
                    Mesi all the way. He was on the cusp before the Jirov fight. Also Mesi would bring alot of attention to boxing, right or wrong, because he'd be a white american champ. Mesi would maul Briggs IMO, and would probably beat Maskaev. And it's not that I think he is a great fighter, but he would light up the division if he had a title. I dunno maybe I'm crazy

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                    • Gareth Ivanovic
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by SquareCircle
                      jason estrada and chris arreola are what we got...Arreola is going to get his ass kicked once he gets to the top. Estrada is skilled, however.
                      I like Arreola, but I also fear that once he fights the best in the division he is going to lose. He style is crowd pleasing, but against a big puncher he could be in trouble.

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