Winky Wright is fighting for the #1 p4p spot

[Sin City]

What is this guy on about?

Why the Winky Wright hype?

He's good but hes been beat about 4 times, Floyd is undefeated and the best fighter in the world regardless of weight,

Thus why he is universially accepted p4p number one,

And i didnt have hopkins as my pound for pound number one, he wasnt fighting dangerous opponents, rather bums and big names coming up to 160, Morales was a better fighter than hopkins, and he was my p4p number one, then Floyd took the p4p number in my eyes before the hopkins loss to taylor.

Pound 4 pound= Who are the best fighters in the world when the attributes are not affected by weight?

Answer.

Floyd Mayweather Junior is the best, you can argue about the rest.

Being undefeated or not is irrelevant to P4P rankings..

[Technical_Skill]

Being undefeated or not is irrelevant to P4P rankings..

Lol, so if mayweather loses to hatton at 140, a weight class which suits them both, he is still p4p number one?

LOL.

Thought de la hoya was gonna beat mayweather?

I wanna talk to this guy, cant be bothered to go round in circles with you.

lol.

[Technical_Skill]

Lol , okay i gotta finish this off real quick now.

1) Pound for Pound means the following, If a boxer's speed, power technique etc were not affected by weight, how would he fare against other fighters, its the same way as saying, if boxers fought on a level playing field in regards to weight, who would be the best fighter?

It has nothing to do with Title defenses, who fights who, who moves up.

Pound 4 pound is mythical because it cannot be physically proven, there is no way all fighters can fight on a level playing field in regards to weight, in others words a weight which would would suit all fighters and not affect their attributes.

Example, If B-Hop Fights Mayweather @ 160 the weight may suit hopkins, but Floyd would most likey be slower and less powerful due to the weight class.

Thus how weight affects a fighter attributes,

Pound 4 Pound is a way of trying to envisage who would be the best fighter in the world when weight was not an issues affecting the variables of a fight.

Now, Floyd Mayweather is the best fighter on earth in my opinion, no im not a blind fan, that is accepted by nearly everyone in the boxing community,

Here's why, if you took all the fighters in the world and took away the attributes affected by weight, thus making it a battle purely of skills and technique, Mayweather would most likely beat any fighter in the world right now, because he is the most complete package in boxing right now.

Thus Winky beating hopkins means nothing in terms of being the best fighter in the world, because if Winky and Floyd got in the ring and weight played no part in the attributes of each fighter, Mayweather would be most likely to win.

Thus why Floyd is universally accepted as pound 4 pound number one, and thus why Roy Jones was the last legitmate universally accepted number one pound 4 pound fighter in the world.

Just putting this out there so that the wladmir guys sees this, i wanna see his reply. lol

[Vladimir303]

You are such a windbag. The furthest floyd can go is 154. If what you're saying is true and floyd can beat anybody if you ignore the weight then could the 140 or 147lb version of floyd really compete with the 160 version of Hopkins? I dont think so. You put floyd right now weighing at 147 against hopkins or Taylor he would get destroyed. Winky Wright already proved the critics wrong competing with a much larger Jermain taylor taking his best shots and hitting him in returns making it a very competitive fight. That shows that he has true boxing skills and that he can compete way beyond his best weight which is 154. Unlike Diego Corrales (R.I.P.) who is almost 6 feet tall both winky and floyd can move up weight and still be effective because of their boxing skills. Winky is a diffrent fighter then floyd but just as good. His defense is diffrent but just as good and imo he could beat floyd at 154.

[Sin City]

Lol, so if mayweather loses to hatton at 140, a weight class which suits them both, he is still p4p number one?

LOL.

Thought de la hoya was gonna beat mayweather?

I wanna talk to this guy, cant be bothered to go round in circles with you.

lol.

Say Hatton does beat Mayweather.. Mayweather comes back and beats him twice.. Floyd isn't pound 4 pound number one because he is not undefeated. But there is this undefeated cat who hasn't fought anyone so he deserves the spot. Your logic makes a lot of sence.. Yeah I was routing for Oscar in the fight, No one knows a fights outcome till the end so so wat if I chose Oscar to win.. At least he fights the best.. unlike floyd giving ***** ass excuses.. uhhh I wont fight someone young and fresh but I will fight all these old retired champions who I know I can beat.. Floyd is ***** MADE!

[Vladimir303]

Say what you want, Winky will become p4p best if he beats B-Hop

Unlike the guy Sin City I dont hate Mayweather. Im just keeping it real. In terms of accomplishments, Winky surpasses floyd in the p4p rankings even if floyd doesn't retire. That was the whole point of this thread that most p4p champs never lose their spot until they finally lose a fight like roy jones and in this case floyd doesn't have to lose or retire in order for him to lose his top spot.

Some fans made the same case for Manny Paquao considering him the p4p best and im doing the same with Winky Wright. The diffrence me listing Winky as p4p best if he beats hopkins has more credibility then other fans listing paquao as p4p best because he defeated a WAY WAY WAY past his prime morales who already lost to Zaheer Raheem before he got knocked out by paquao.

[Technical_Skill]

You are such a windbag. The furthest floyd can go is 154. If what you're saying is true and floyd can beat anybody if you ignore the weight then could the 140 or 147lb version of floyd really compete with the 160 version of Hopkins? I dont think so.

Duh! 160 pound version of hopkins? Your not ignoring the weight are you?

Listen. Its mythical, you cant prove it physically, but Hopkins vs Mayweather skills for skill when their attributes are not affected by weight = Mayweather Victory

You put floyd right now weighing at 147 against hopkins or Taylor he would get destroyed.

Duh, he still not ignoring weight, of course a 160 pound taylor can beat a 147 pound mayweather, because he weighs more, skill for skill, p4p, mayweather wins.

And by the way, not that this has any relavence to p4p ranking, but what weight did FMJ start at?.... 130 pounds, where did winky start?

lol.

Winky Wright already proved the critics wrong competing with a much larger Jermain taylor taking his best shots and hitting him in returns making it a very competitive fight. That shows that he has true boxing skills and that he can compete way beyond his best weight which is 154.

LMAO, so winky moves up one weight class and that in YOUR eyes (not mine, to me its no relavant) makes him better than FMJ, who moved up from 130-154 pounds?

lol.

Winky is a diffrent fighter then floyd but just as good.but just as good and imo he could beat floyd at 154.

Yeah only cos 154 aint floyd's best weight, Skill 4 skill winky dont match up to mayweather, not saying winky aint class.

Hahha, dude dont insult me cos your posts dont add up, im done with ya, easiest nights work in ages.

Thanks for allowing me to keep my post count up.

lol.

[Technical_Skill]

Say Hatton does beat Mayweather.. Mayweather comes back and beats him twice.. Floyd isn't pound 4 pound number one because he is not undefeated. But there is this undefeated cat who hasn't fought anyone so he deserves the spot. Your logic makes a lot of sence.. Yeah I was routing for Oscar in the fight, No one knows a fights outcome till the end so so wat if I chose Oscar to win.. At least he fights the best.. unlike floyd giving ***** ass excuses.. uhhh I wont fight someone young and fresh but I will fight all these old retired champions who I know I can beat.. Floyd is ***** MADE!

and as for you, your posts were never worth anything to me anyways, same old bull**** everyday, where's your DLH avatar now? lol, noticed how you went missing on may 5th and 6th then tried to sneak your way back in. lol.

If hatton beats mayweather, if anyone beats mayweather, will you consider him p4p?

nope,

so it is relavent to you, seeing as you probably dont even rate FMJ as pound 4 pound number one even now. lol


You Talk so much crap im suprised your mouth doesnt get constipation.

You- are - a- Hater.

De- La - Hoya- Lost.

[Vladimir303]

Just because you broke my post up into 4 peaces doesn't mean you said anything relevant. Same old longwinded bs from you. So floyd can't beat taylor or hopkins but he has better skills. I suppose floyd can also beat Lennox lewis and Wladimir Klitschko skillwise but doesn't have to prove it because you know they're heavyweights and they're way bigger then him.

Dude you embarissed yourself. Pathetic attempt at breaking down what p4p is all about. Allen Iverson might be the most skilled basketball player in the NBA but he is only 6 feet tall and isn't nearly as effective. So does that mean we should just forget about it and call him the best because he is the most skilled but just can't prove it because he is smaller.

[Technical_Skill]

Just because you broke my post up into 4 peaces doesn't mean you said anything relevant. Same old longwinded bs from you. So floyd can't beat taylor or hopkins but he has better skills. I suppose floyd can also beat Lennox lewis and Wladimir Klitschko skillwise but doesn't have to prove it because you know they're heavyweights and they're way bigger then him.

Dude you embarissed yourself. .

How, bro you dont even know the meaning of pound 4 pound, mainly cos your 3rd grade brain cells cant understand the following.

Yes Floyd cant beat Taylor or Hopkins AT THEIR WEIGHT! they are too heavy, floyd skills wouldnt mean as much because those two hit a lot harder than him cos they are naturally heavier.

Likewise

they cant beat him at his best weight (140) either, they might lose power coming down in weight and he probably would be much faster.

Its an unfair match up, because weight plays the decisive factor, not skill.

So pound for pound is when you eliminate the weight issue and compare fighters skill for skill. thus why its mythical.

A tip, dont hold your mobile phone so close to your head, it causes long term damage.

lol.