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Listen guy, im a big floyd mayweather fan but im also reasonable. Im not hyping nobody up. Being undefeated doesn't necessarly mean that you get to keep the top p4p forever. That's floyd's way of thinking which is why he in a interview said that he is greater then Ali, ray robinson and leonard because those guys lost and he didn't. I love floyd but that is flat out ******ed.
Floyd got the #1 spot by technicality not by accomplishments. The guy ahead of him Roy jones got knocke out and he moved up and with hopkins losing for the first time in what 13 years and losing again he definetly moved up to #1 being a mullti-division champion. So winky is not undefeated, it doesnt matter. Floyd is a 5-division champion but really 3-division at 130,135 and 147 because I dont count the Gatti and Delahoya wins as legitimate championship wins. Those two were not the REAL champions of their division. I give him alot of credit for moving up in weight and beating delahoya who is bigger and stronger but he is not the real 154lb champ. The last real champ at that weight was ironically WINKY WRIGHT and now he is fighting two weight classes above for the linear light-heavyweight championship.Comment
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Totally irrrelvant.
Bro this is the meaning of Pound 4 pound:
Who are the best fighters in the world when the attributes are not affected by weight?
its has nothing to do with who moves up and who fights who, its a way of saying who is the best fighter in the world regardless of weight.
People have screwed its meaning so other things like moving up weight and title defenses count, they dont count under the true meaning of pound for pound.
Pound was pound was created for sugar ray robinson as far as i know, it was the boxing media's way of saying he is the best fighter in boxing, the best fighter regardless of weight.
Thats the meaning of pund 4 pound.
Thats the reason why floyd is the undisputed p4p champ.Comment
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yes it was created because of ray robinson as I mentioned when I created this thread. And NO floyd is not the undisputed p4p champ. When you're the undisputed heavyweight or any other weight champion, you can only lose that title in the ring as Ring Magazine already knows which is why they're the most credible source with all these diffrent so called champions around.
p4p is mythical and you can lose your spot without losing a fight. Ray robinson's attempt to move up to light-heavy from middleweight was legendary. He failed but he set a standard for a new generation of fighters like Hopkins and Winky and even floyd. Winky is trying to do the same thing and move up from middleweight to light-heavy fighting a really bigger and stronger guy. Let's face it floyd at fight night was still a welterweight fighting a jr.middle and thats impressive but he didn't even have to put on alot of weight since 147-154 is not far apart. And compared to winky fighting hopkins, delahoya is not that much bigger then floyd. He is what only 2 inches taller then floyd? He also started at super-feather like floyd and has went 2-2 in hist last 4 prior to facing floyd. He defeated a shopworn mayorga who already got softened up by Tito before that.
Common guy stop being so biased and give credit where credit is due. Nobody is hyping nobody up, if anybody is hyping its you with your blind love for floyd.Comment
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Lol, so ring magazine's p4p is the only one that matters? lol. Come on dude, Its just a magazine it aint faultless.
Again your missing the point, its not about who fights at what weight or who moves up.
It simply means who is the best fighter in the world regardless of weight, thats all, nothing more, nothing less.
Now, who is the best fighter in the world regardless of weight?
If weight didnt affect a fighters speed and power etc who is the best fighter?
Whichever way you say it, you get the same answer: Mayweather.
Or tell me one fighter who is better than Floyd when the attributes are not affected by weight.
Tell me.Comment
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if he takes down b hop in july i think he'll be my number 1 p4p...considering floyds gonna stay retiredComment
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Lol, so ring magazine's p4p is the only one that matters? lol. Come on dude, Its just a magazine it aint faultless.
Actually I was talking about the rankings in weight divisions of the Ring Magazine not their P4p ranking. You missed the pointComment
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If weight doesn't affect Winky Wright it will still be difficult beating Hopkins who has always been competitive in every fight win or lose. If he beats hopkins then he is p4p best. Keep in mind he has never even fought at super-middle and he is fighting at 170 against the best at that weight. No tune up or nothing. If he wins it will be huge whether you wanna except it or not. Credit must be given by the neutural and balanced observersIf weight didnt affect a fighters speed and power etc who is the best fighter?Comment
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Lol , okay i gotta finish this off real quick now.
1) Pound for Pound means the following, If a boxer's speed, power technique etc were not affected by weight, how would he fare against other fighters, its the same way as saying, if boxers fought on a level playing field in regards to weight, who would be the best fighter?
It has nothing to do with Title defenses, who fights who, who moves up.
Pound 4 pound is mythical because it cannot be physically proven, there is no way all fighters can fight on a level playing field in regards to weight, in others words a weight which would would suit all fighters and not affect their attributes.
Example, If B-Hop Fights Mayweather @ 160 the weight may suit hopkins, but Floyd would most likey be slower and less powerful due to the weight class.
Thus how weight affects a fighter attributes,
Pound 4 Pound is a way of trying to envisage who would be the best fighter in the world when weight was not an issues affecting the variables of a fight.
Now, Floyd Mayweather is the best fighter on earth in my opinion, no im not a blind fan, that is accepted by nearly everyone in the boxing community,
Here's why, if you took all the fighters in the world and took away the attributes affected by weight, thus making it a battle purely of skills and technique, Mayweather would most likely beat any fighter in the world right now, because he is the most complete package in boxing right now.
Thus Winky beating hopkins means nothing in terms of being the best fighter in the world, because if Winky and Floyd got in the ring and weight played no part in the attributes of each fighter, Mayweather would be most likely to win.
Thus why Floyd is universally accepted as pound 4 pound number one, and thus why Roy Jones was the last legitmate universally accepted number one pound 4 pound fighter in the world.Comment
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