Winky Wright is fighting for the #1 p4p spot

[jack_the_rippuh]

Winky is too ugly to be P4P #1.

[realheavyhands]

I dont think victories over tarver and winky wright are enough when you look his two losses to jermain taylor whether you think he lost or won those two fights or went 1-1. Facts- he is 1-2 in his last 3 fights against top competition. Granted he jumped up all the way from middleweight to win a light-heavyweight title skippin supper-middle which is old school and I like that but the fact of the matter is that he still has lost 2 in a row and I can't ignore that. Now winky jumping all the way from middleweight to light-heavy and winning against hopkins along with his long unbeaten streak that conisists of beating shane twice and trinidad should and would be good enough to have him surpass floyd mayweather who hasn't lost yet.
The best hopkins can do is go is to winky's current p4p spot which is # 2 or 3 according to some if they have paquao at #2 (I dont).

say hopkins beats winky though.. who is your #1 if mayweathers retired.. for me its hopkins.. but if winky wins even if floyd is retired or not, its winky at #1

[Vladimir303]

Im not talking about them fighting, Im just rating their skills, which you add to record to discern p4p rankings.

if you go by rating skills you could put Zab judah in the top 10 easy ignoring his mental ******ation. But like I said p4p is diffrent to diffrent people. It's a mythical ranking system that started and was created when sugar ray robinson was fighting. I personally go by accomplishments in the ring. It's not the skill, it's what you do with your skill. Kobe Bryant has all the skills in the world but can he truely surpass Michael Jordan on the all-time greats list? Some compare him to Jordan athletically and skillwise but he hasn't accomplished nearly enough compared to what Jordan has.

[realheavyhands]

if you go by rating skills you could put Zab judah in the top 10 easy ignoring his mental ******ation. But like I said p4p is diffrent to diffrent people. It's a mythical ranking system that started and was created when sugar ray robinson was fighting. I personally go by accomplishments in the ring. It's not the skill, it's what you do with your skill. Kobe Bryant has all the skills in the world but can he truely surpass Michael Jordan on the all-time greats list? Some compare him to Jordan athletically and skillwise but he hasn't accomplished nearly enough compared to what Jordan has.

skillwise zab judah is probably the best fighter in the world..

[Vladimir303]

say hopkins beats winky though.. who is your #1 if mayweathers retired.. for me its hopkins.. but if winky wins even if floyd is retired or not, its winky at #1

Good question and now you got me thinkin. With floyd retiring that leaves the # spot vacant and with winky losing that leaves the 2 spot up for grabs as well. Now paquao by most is considered #2 and by a few idiots even #1. I have him at 3. Some may think I hate paquao by what I just said above but im not. His only loss recently is to Eric Morales. He has been in against barrera, Marquez and morales 3 times ( all 3 great fighters) and he went 3-1-1 with 3 kos which is very impressive. With that said I would have him #1 p4p if floyd retired with hopkins still at #2

[Benny Leonard]

Hopkins lost to Taylor...Tarver beats a deflated Jones Jr. after Jones loses a lot of muscle weight to make 175 pounds (in his mid 30's)...Tarver gains weight for Rocky movie, loses muscle-weight quickly to fight Hopkins...Hopkins, after losing twice to a young fighter, decides it is best to move up and fight a now worn torn fighter (from his battles with Glenn Johnson), and now weight drained fighter {"what goes around comes back around"}, Tarver...Hopkins wins, and now he is "back"...Winky "I like to use my gloves as a shield, instead of slipping and moving" Wright, will be fighting a 40+ year old man, who does not fight like he used to, but this victory should put him over Floyd "I am undefeated, winning titles in 5 different weight-classes" Mayweather on the P4P list...Yeah, I can see the reason Winky will deserve it.

I will admit that Winky's last 3 fights have been good since he has gone on the offensive more. Winky does have some good pop, but he rarely shows it because he fights cautious. I am not going to complain to much: a fighter has to do what is best for him to win a fight.

[BmoreBrawler]

if you go by rating skills you could put Zab judah in the top 10 easy ignoring his mental ******ation. But like I said p4p is diffrent to diffrent people. It's a mythical ranking system that started and was created when sugar ray robinson was fighting. I personally go by accomplishments in the ring. It's not the skill, it's what you do with your skill. Kobe Bryant has all the skills in the world but can he truely surpass Michael Jordan on the all-time greats list? Some compare him to Jordan athletically and skillwise but he hasn't accomplished nearly enough compared to what Jordan has.

Thats why you combine it with record, like I stated earlier

[Vladimir303]

Thats why you combine it with record, like I stated earlier

yes but it will be a non-factor if winky becomes p4p best.
We all are and have been fully aware of what these two bring to the table, the only thing that changes is winky if he winks against hopkins adds another BIG victory to his already impressive resume and the resume is big enough to beats floyd in the rankings without floyd losing.

[heat27]

i agree with vladimir303

[Technical_Skill]

Whether Floyd mayweather retires or not, if Winky defeats Bernard Hopkins he will (should and would) become the #1 p4p fighter in the world knocking floyd off the top spot. Usually (or most of the times) in order for the #1 p4p spot to change hands the top guy has to lose to somebody in order for somebody else to move up and become the new p4p king. Examples are roy jones jr who lost to tarver and Hopkins who was considered #2 moved up and took his spot by technicality. Same thing with Hopkins after he lost to jermain taylor and Floyd mayweather took his spot and became the top dog. To make a long story short, usually once somebody becomes (or is considered by the majority of normal unbiased fans or experts) #1 p4p its hard to take his spot until he losses to somebody. If the p4p best stays active and keeps racking up victories even against B-level fighters on a consistent basis he will stay on top, until now.

Once again, if Winky Wright defeates Bernard Hopkins he will become the legitimate p4p best. If Bernard Hopkins defeats winky he will take Winky’s current p4p spot which according to me is #2 (according to other # 3 behind Paquao) . As much as he has accomplished he has lost to jermain taylor twice and that makes it impossible for him to go any further then #2 until the fighter ahead of him losses. But with Winky you have a guy who hasn’t been beaten in a decade. If he beats Hopkins he doesn’t just have that one big victory NO it will be his fourth big victory added to his long win streak which consists with wins over Shane mosley 2x and Trinidad. Not only that but he will be the first former jr.middleweight champ in boxing history ( as far as I know) to jump up and become the linear light-heavyweight champion skipping out on supper-middle. That’s major and again you add to it that he hasn’t been beaten in a decade you got a guy who has done enough to dethrone the current p4p best Floyd Mayweather jr who by the way is still undefeated and a 5-division (legitimate 3-division champ 130, 135 and 147) champion.


Now I know in any mathematical ranking systems the #2 ranked (winky) can’t move up to #1 by beating the #5 (Hopkins on my list) ranked guy but the p4p ranks are mythical anyway. A lot of fans disagree and have different lists although the majority has the same fighters in the top 3 (floyd,winky and pacman not necessary in the same order) and everything below that can be debated for eternity.

Now I am a big floyd mayweather fan but I’m being unbiased on this. I thought Winky was going to get dominated by Taylor before they fought a la Wlad Klitschko/Chris Byrd, where the good big man beats the good little man but that didn’t happen. I even criticized him for the way he acted after the draw was announced running off to his locker room refusing a rematch with Jermain Taylor at that time. I’m not a big fan of Wright and I will be rooting for Hopkins come fight night BUT if he manages to beat Hopkins close or not close he will in my eyes (and I hope in the majority of others) not only become the new Light-heavyweight champion of the world ( ignore the sanctioning bodies) but also the New P4P best in boxing.

On a side note im thinking: "So floyd, whether you're retiring or not (and I'm a big fan) you're not going out as the p4p best. Winky takes it from you either way unless you go back down and clean out the welterweight division Hatton (if he beats castillo), Cotto (if he beats Judah) and Mosley in no particular order. Although it would be smart to take on mosley first if you plan on fighting him and fight him soon became he is the oldest of the three and if you want credit for that fight it would have to be soon because every day he is getting older and older. After all would if you had 3 cases of milk, 2 of them which you just bought today and the third who's date is about to expire which case would you drink first? And lets face it cotto and hatton are still young and can wait while mosley is still that good case of milk but you have to drink it soon before it expires and gets sour.

FLOYD WELTERWEIGHT IS WHERE THE LEGACY IS AT!!

What is this guy on about?

Why the Winky Wright hype?

He's good but hes been beat about 4 times, Floyd is undefeated and the best fighter in the world regardless of weight,

Thus why he is universially accepted p4p number one,

And i didnt have hopkins as my pound for pound number one, he wasnt fighting dangerous opponents, rather bums and big names coming up to 160, Morales was a better fighter than hopkins, and he was my p4p number one, then Floyd took the p4p number in my eyes before the hopkins loss to taylor.

Pound 4 pound= Who are the best fighters in the world when the attributes are not affected by weight?

Answer.

Floyd Mayweather Junior is the best, you can argue about the rest.