ricky hatton can only beat 2 (at beast) welterweights

[.Mik.]

Perhaps he is speaking in regards to Duran getting his tactics right against a superior technical boxer.

[squealpiggy]

Stylistically it's perfect for hatton, what are you on about? A light hitting smaller fighter who doesn't like to be pressured... It could go either way because Floyd is so very skilled but in terms of styles Floyd is made for Hatton. Hatton struggles with southpaws who hit him on the way in. Floyd's head movement wouldn't make many odds because Hatton will go almost exclusively to the body anyway.

[Technical_Skill]

Ok, will explain this one a min, just putting on my make-up at the moment.

lol.

[Steelhammer86]

I'm Canadian not British but I like Hatton

Ricky Hatton's achievements are substantial. He has dominated his weight class over the past several years, having compiled an amazing record of 42-0. He has lots of heart and is great to watch, and that's why he has such a big fan following.

His critics always want him to move up in weight class, but his limited reach and height (5'6'') are more suited to Lightweight or Light Welterweight. However, I do think he could beat bigger boxers at Welterweight, in fact I believe he would beat most if not all of the top ten. But that's not his weight class - at his own weight division, he's the Ring Magazine champion! To me, that means a lot - to be the best Light Welterweight in the world!

Hatton's decision to fight Castillo rather than defend an alphabet title says a lot about him. This is what boxing fans want to see - the two top boxers in a division in a meaningful matchup.

Hatton deserves respect and recognition for his achievements, the best of which may be still to come!

[squealpiggy]

I'd say as a big Hatton fan that:

1.mayweather-Mayweather is favourite but Hatton has a good shout. My money would be on Hatton because of the odds I would get.
2.mosley-Hits too hard and a bit too much for Hatton, I would predict a win for Mosely
3.cotto-Pick'em. At 140 Hatton by beatdown, at 147 probably an even contest. Hatton's experience gives him a slight edge, and also Miguel's chin is slightly more suspect than Hatton's.
4.baldomir- Hatton by a wide UD, Baldomir may be big but he's very slow and relatively light fisted. He'd struggle to land anything significant.
5.margarito-Bad matchup for Hatton, a big wiley puncher. Hatton has an outside chance but the smart money is on Antonio.
6.williams- Another bad matchup style-wise. Rick's small stature would put him at a tremendous disadvantage... I would reserve judgement until after the margarito fight though as Williams really hasn't been in with any kind of puncher.
7.judah-I would pick Judah on this. He's a fast hard hitting southpaw, just the kind of fighter Hatton hates.
8.citron-Hatton by late KO after a sustained body attack. Hatton has way too much energy for Cintron
9.clottey-He's a tough customer, Hatton could get a decision if he fought smartly, but it wouldn't be a top pick for an opponent if it was my choice.
10.quitana-Hatton beats Quintana in the same way Cotto did. Carlos is vulnerable to body shots and Hatton's are as good as anybody's in the world.

Urkal - Hatton UD in a crap fight with lots of holding.

[Technical_Skill]

Stylistically it's perfect for hatton, what are you on about? A light hitting smaller fighter who doesn't like to be pressured... It could go either way because Floyd is so very skilled but in terms of styles Floyd is made for Hatton. Hatton struggles with southpaws who hit him on the way in. Floyd's head movement wouldn't make many odds because Hatton will go almost exclusively to the body anyway.

Right lets make this a quick one, im gonna give you my opinion

Hatton has several basic flaws which means he got little chance against a guy like Mayweather.

Hatton leaves himself open to right hands, even guys like Urango were hitting him clean with that shot lol, any fighter who wants to beat PBF has to avoid that right hand, which is one of the most dangerous punches in boxing, it comes so quick fighters cant see it and it lands repeatedly and accurately. In the judah fight mayweather modifed the straight right by firing it from unorthodox angles and shortening the punch so he gave up less balance on the leverage and was able to throw quick shots to the body after. No way can Ricky Hatton deal with that.

What's all this about Mayweather not having head movement? it's a myth, Mayweather consistently uses head movements to counter, see the Baldomir and Judah fights, he's known for the shell defence, but he actually has more than one way of defending, in the Judah fight he clearly held both hands up in front of him in a conventional style, to pick off judah's jabs and fire a straight right to the body, the shell is actually a form of offense at times, Mayweather goes into it to invite the fighter in before he pivots with a flush counter.

Ricky Hatton only has ONE WAY to win this fight, that is to swarm Mayweather, mayweather has multiple different way to win the fight, Hatton is not quick enough or accurate enough to land on Floyd, people dont realise how well floyd protects the body, In the shell the right hand (i think) covers the midrift and stomach areas and turns away from the punch at the same time so it catches his elbow. Mayweather could come at Hatton from all sort of angles and hit flush all day long, Hatton comes at fighters in a straight line and follows them around the ring, he would give up too much balance hitting and moving forward at the same time, mayweather would just need to sidestep and counter him. Mayweather could fight in the pocket and counter, Mayweather could stay on the outside and counter. He has many ways to win that fight.

Hatton doesn't walk through fighters punches, Thats a myth, see the Collazo fight, when was clearly close to being knocked out by a guy who thew combinations and was very slippery, Hatton doesnt want to fight Slick fighters, which is why he says he will never fight Junior Witter, the WBC 140 Pound champ, Hatton goes after the brawlers like Castillo etc, any guy who cant block a basic right hand lead, shouldnt be getting the ring with guys like Mayweather.

To get to the body Hatton would have to close the distance on floyd, which we know aint happening, as soon as he gets into range he will he left hook and right handed counters all night long, Hatton's body shots arent the end of the world, Urango took them for 12 rounds and hurt Hatton badly with his own shots, to get the body and throw, Hatton would have to take serious punishment, and by the time he closes the distance, mayweather wont be there, ask Gatti, Chavez and the and the other guys Mayweather beat, going to his body aint happening, he too quick and too slick.

Hatton has nothing in his array of punches to offest floyd, no jab, no right right, he isnt slick, has a poor defense, like i have said above, tactically he has next to no chance, because his whole fight plan relies on get up close to Floyd for very sustained periods of time without taking punishment, which anyone who watches boxing knows aint happening. even if he gets up close, mayweathers defense will pick off his shots, His only chance is too resort to illegal tactics to offset mayweather.

The guy who beats Floyd wil his have to force mayweather into coming after him and pick him off, someone like Spinks would really give mayweather trouble, as soon as he gets 1 round ahead on PBF, he's gonna run, and PBF is gonna have to run after him, then he may make mistakes,

Plenty of guys have tried this 'swarming' tactic, most them ended up on the canvas, if Hatton cant handle Collazo, he cant handle mayweather, and he knows this himself, which is why he asked for 13 milion to fight him when he admitted team mayweather callled him several times trying to make the fight, and is the reason why he dropped out of 147. He tried to get the Baldomir fight, Baldomir choose Mayweather, Hatton knew to be linear champ he would have to go after Mayweather because if floyd beat Baldomir (which he did) Hatton would have nowhere to run.

When he was at 147 pounds, he never mentioned PBF once in any interviews, yet as soon as he went back to 140 and Floyd went up to 154, he starts talking again. lol.

Hatton wants nothing to do with Floyd Mayweather, he wont fight him until he sees something which he feel gives him a chance against him.

And that is that in my opnion.

[.Mik.]

Hatton leaves himself open to right hands, even guys like Urango were hitting him clean with that shot lol, any fighter who wants to beat PBF has to avoid that right hand

People said the same about Kostya's big punch. Hatton found a way to neutralise that.

Ricky Hatton only has ONE WAY to win this fight, that is to swarm Mayweather

Which he has already said would be the tactics he'd plan to implement against Maywhether.

Hatton doesn't walk through fighters punches, Thats a myth, see the Collazo fight, when was clearly close to being knocked out by a guy who thew combinations and was very slippery

Or see all his other fights, where thats exactly what he has done. I didnt see anything close to a knockout from Collazo. Just a few excellent punches that Hatton took very well (note he never even wobbled, just covered up/held on).

To get to the body Hatton would have to close the distance on floyd, which we know aint happening

Maywhether has never fought anyone as good at swarming and closing down the distance, so how do we all know that 'aint happening'?

[squealpiggy]

I respect your opinion. I mentioned that Floyd's head movement won't help him because Hatton will go after the body for most of the fight. I know Mayweather has good head movement but that shouldn't make a difference to Hatton.

In terms of styles Mayweather is supremely talented and that is why Floyd would be favourite, but style-wise a swarming brawler like Hatton has the best chance against a boxer like Mayweather, the blueprint was already provided by Castillo. To beat Mayweather you have to make it a fight. You have a puncher's chance in a fight with Mayweather, you have no chance at all in a boxing match with Mayweather.

It's a fair comment about the right hands, however Hatton did walk through the best right hand in the lower weight divisions when he fought Kostya. Where he has struggled with right hands has been against southpaws where he was getting hit with the right hook. Mayweather likes to jump in with a straight right but there again so does Hatton. A lot of people say that Mayweather - Hatton would be like Mayweather-Gatti but Gatti tried to box Maywetaher, a mistake that Hatton would not make.

Hatton would have long odds against Mayweather in terms of betting, but I don't think it's as clear cut as the bookies would make it. That's why my money would be on Hatton for the win. It would be by necessity brutal, but Hatton has that steamroller's chance which he never did against the much taller southpaw Luis Collazo.

But I respect your opinion and the way you put it.

[trips420]

I dont see why people are always trying to compare him to welters.Ricky is just to small to fight these natural welters.I would put him in with some of the smaller welters like Zab Cotto or Floyd but i wouldnt throw him in with any natural welter 5'9 or over.When you factor in his height small reach and the style he fights its easy to see any of the bigger welters just walking him down over rounds.

[ThaHorseman]

I dont see why people are always trying to compare him to welters.Ricky is just to small to fight these natural welters.I would put him in with some of the smaller welters like Zab Cotto or Floyd but i wouldnt throw him in with any natural welter 5'9 or over.When you factor in his height small reach and the style he fights its easy to see any of the bigger welters just walking him down over rounds.

I see what you're saying about some Welters being too big, but you have to remember some started out lighter than Hatton. The difference between Hatton and a lot of other great fighters is that Hatton never moved up. Guys like Zab, Mosley, and Floyd started off at or below 140. And since those are the best WW out there, size should be no factor in whether Hatton fights at WW or not.