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  • eric maldonado
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    #91
    Originally posted by me2007
    Hatton fought Collazo at short notice and put on weight too fast, too soon, resulting in a sloppy performance (which he still won).

    Generalising about a fighters potential performance in a division after that preparation is not going to be very accurate.

    Try and remember what happened to Mayweather when he was exposed by Castillo at a lighter weight.
    that sounds like excuses. collazo was just the better man. if hatton can't make weight thats his fault no one elses

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    • eric maldonado
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      #92
      Originally posted by Mozza
      It is fairly simple, the fact that Castillo ran Mayweather close shows that Mayweather is not indomitable and is therefore beatable.
      in the rematch floyd won easy and has dominated all his fights since then so how has he been exposed?

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        #93
        Originally posted by Mozza
        It is fairly simple, the fact that Castillo ran Mayweather close shows that Mayweather is not indomitable and is therefore beatable.
        You didn't explain anything. Castillo lost both fights. PBF was hurt in the 1st fight which was close and controversial to some. Castillo is EASILY beat in the rematch when PBF is 100%. Those things have somehow exposed PBF. This exposure is not adding up. Since Castillo has laid this so called blueprint many have tried it and many have lost. Pressure and rough house tactics is not the way to beat PBF. I think it is going to take a combination of pressure and very skilled boxing to beat PBF. Hatton can bring pressure but he is not a very skilled boxer.

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        • circleinsidebox
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          #94
          someone please explain to me
          how mayweather was exposed at lightweight (first fight with castillo) and we learned he had hurt his left rotater cup (hence the use of his leaping left hook diminished after round 2) and then we had the rematch in which he was healthy and he dominated...please explain the exposure to me one more time

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          • Mozza
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            #95
            Originally posted by eric maldonado
            in the rematch floyd won easy and has dominated all his fights since then so how has he been exposed?
            What do you mean dominated? If you mean won then you are right but if you mean won easily then you are sadly wrong.
            Last edited by Mozza; 09-07-2007, 10:11 AM.

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              #96
              Originally posted by tredh
              You didn't explain anything. Castillo lost both fights. PBF was hurt in the 1st fight which was close and controversial to some. Castillo is EASILY beat in the rematch when PBF is 100%. Those things have somehow exposed PBF. This exposure is not adding up. Since Castillo has laid this so called blueprint many have tried it and many have lost. Pressure and rough house tactics is not the way to beat PBF. I think it is going to take a combination of pressure and very skilled boxing to beat PBF. Hatton can bring pressure but he is not a very skilled boxer.
              Hatton's boxing skills are underrated but that is besides the point here. My understanding of the word exposed, in this context, is that Mayweather showed weaknesses that could be exploited by any potential opponent and therefore I would suggest that anyone who has beaten Floyd in a round of boxing has shown a way to beat him.

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                #97
                Originally posted by Mozza
                Hatton's boxing skills are underrated but that is besides the point here. My understanding of the word exposed, in this context, is that Mayweather showed weaknesses that could be exploited by any potential opponent and therefore I would suggest that anyone who has beaten Floyd in a round of boxing has shown a way to beat him.
                Please give me a fight of Hatton's that I could possibly find on youtube that would show me Hatton's boxing skills. Also having underrated boxing skills and very good boxing skills are worlds apart. Nobody biased or not has ever said Hatton has very good boxing skills.
                The bold is just utter and complete bull****. The bold is just sad come on now I know you can do better than that. So you telling me a fighter like Gatti could do the same **** to win a round against PBF as De la Hoya did? You see how ****** that comment was. Also that argument doesn't take into account a fighter giving away a round to rest. PBF has not been exposed and Hatton is not going to be the one to expose him either.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by tredh
                  Please give me a fight of Hatton's that I could possibly find on youtube that would show me Hatton's boxing skills. Also having underrated boxing skills and very good boxing skills are worlds apart. Nobody biased or not has ever said Hatton has very good boxing skills.
                  The bold is just utter and complete bull****. The bold is just sad come on now I know you can do better than that. So you telling me a fighter like Gatti could do the same **** to win a round against PBF as De la Hoya did? You see how ****** that comment was. Also that argument doesn't take into account a fighter giving away a round to rest. PBF has not been exposed and Hatton is not going to be the one to expose him either.
                  Tackie, Magee, Thaxton and Phillips. I don't know if they are on youtube but the shouldn't be too hard to find.
                  The bit in bold is not bull****. I am not saying that any fighter could expose those weaknesses but the fact that they have been exposed would surely be something for anyone who fights Mayweather in the future to consider going into the fight. Fighters may give away rounds to rest but I think it is fair to say that Judah, De La Hoya and Castillo all won rounds against Floyd on their own merit as opposed to simply capitalising on tiredness.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Mozza
                    Tackie, Magee, Thaxton and Phillips. I don't know if they are on youtube but the shouldn't be too hard to find.
                    The bit in bold is not bull****. I am not saying that any fighter could expose those weaknesses but the fact that they have been exposed would surely be something for anyone who fights Mayweather in the future to consider going into the fight. Fighters may give away rounds to rest but I think it is fair to say that Judah, De La Hoya and Castillo all won rounds against Floyd on their own merit as opposed to simply capitalising on tiredness.
                    You did say any opponent now that you clarified its a little different. Also you can't say because something worked one round that its a weakness thats been exposed because adjustments are always made. Just like I can agree that all the fighters you named one rounds on they're own merit but once PBF made adjustments they could no longer capitalize on what they thought was a exposed weakness.

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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Mozza
                      Tackie, Magee, Thaxton and Phillips. I don't know if they are on youtube but the shouldn't be too hard to find.
                      The bit in bold is not bull****. I am not saying that any fighter could expose those weaknesses but the fact that they have been exposed would surely be something for anyone who fights Mayweather in the future to consider going into the fight. Fighters may give away rounds to rest but I think it is fair to say that Judah, De La Hoya and Castillo all won rounds against Floyd on their own merit as opposed to simply capitalising on tiredness.
                      i only thought they won 3 rounds each (second castillo fight) imo thats dominating a fight

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