De La Hoya overrated!!!

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  • Williamb45
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    #71
    Originally posted by kericuss
    Ive never seen the "destroyd" column. i have only seen wins, losses, draws, and No Contests. it dont matter how bad you lose, if you lost u just lost. and im mainly talking about his big fights. DLH is a good fighter and im not denying that. but not a great in my opinion.
    Originally posted by kericuss
    Ricardo Mayorga
    Fernando Vargas
    Arturo Gatti
    Luis Ramon 'Yory Boy' Campas
    Derrell Colley
    Javier Castillejo
    And these are good fighters by whose standards? Mayorga beat Forrest and Six heads Lews. Vargas was gifted against Winky. the other names on there are people who was perfect for DLH. Stand in front and slug it out with him. If those are the only names u can come up with in 7 yrs then that proves my point. Yori Boy Campas---yea right!
    You cant have 2 standards on different fighters. I understand that you don't like Oscar, but if you only care about W L D or NC, then it should apply to every fighter.

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    • Williamb45
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      #72
      Originally posted by kericuss
      i even think that fight was fixed! I have never seen a fighter not even move his head when he is looking at someone punching at him. DLH didnt miss with his right. you would think that after u get hit with the same punch for 4 rds, u would atleast move ur head. the fix was on! the one punch that Mayorga did throw and connect actually rocked DLH for a hot second. then he remembered he was there to lose, so he started looking to run his face into that right hand again
      Now I know you are just typing bull****. You must be just taking up boxing if you think DLH needed to cheat to win against Mayorga. At least if you wanted to point out a fight that might have been fixed (which I don't believe it was), bring up the Hopkins fight.

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      • brently1979
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        #73
        Originally posted by Williamb45
        Now I know you are just typing bull****. You must be just taking up boxing if you think DLH needed to cheat to win against Mayorga. At least if you wanted to point out a fight that might have been fixed (which I don't believe it was), bring up the Hopkins fight.
        It's clear this joker doesn't know what he's talking about. Just another fool who needs a few rounds in the gym.

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        • JoeJacoby
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          #74
          I thought I was the only one to think this. In all his big fights, he seemed to always come up short. The Whitaker fight people believe he lost, the Quartey fight also people believe he lost, I think he lost that one because I don't think the last round makes up for the rest where I had him behind no small part to that superb jab of Quartey's. The Sturm fight, no need to answer there, the Trinidad fight..maybe here he had an opportunity, people are split with that....then he runs the last 4 rounds, you don't win by running away and leaving a really bad taste in people's mouths.. The Mosley fights, the 1st he was outhusled and lost, the 2nd people say well, he should have got it.....well everyone at press row seemed to have it for Mosley because he did land the harder punches, shook Oscar up with shots to the head and had him clutching and holding his sides on the stomach like he was going to collapse, that leaves a big impression on judges. Now I seen that fans of Oscar then say well, he should have won the Whitaker fight because he landed the HARDER punches even though he was outlanded quite a bit by Sweet Pea and even had a flash KD....so then why doesn't Shane get credit for landed much harder punches and visibly hurting him alot (Whitaker was never hurt in his fight, and outboxed Oscar and made him look foolish quite a bit). And the Hopkins fight...well you know the result. I agree with the Vargas and Mayorga fights in that they were already on the scrap heap unfortunately. That's why I have to side with Floyd on May 5th, seems like Oscar just chokes in all the big fights or just flat doesn't bring it when he has to. I think his career will be checkered where people can make claims he never really won a big fight, though he could change that a bit if he beats Floyd.

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          • gixxer
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            #75
            Originally posted by kericuss
            Honestly i think DLH is overrated. Sure he has been in MEGA fights. But howmany has he won? When he has faced competition in their primes--he lost. 2x to Mosely, Trinidad, and Hopkins. I'll go as far to say, who has he really beaten since '99? JCC(2x),Vargas, Mayorga? Is that it? I dont know why he is considered the "cash cow" of boxing when he hardly ever "WINS" the fight. Also, throw in the Sturm fight(which was a gift) how many fights has he actually won, this century? in a word DLH is overrated---comments, please
            robbed him in the tito fight and the second shane fight and hopkins was a setup fight he would have easily beat hopkins if he did not take that fake as fall he wuz kicking hopkins ass ...............but im not saying hes all bad ass and ****

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            • !! $iN
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              #76
              If DLH is really a great fighter, he won't get completely schooled by Mayweather. We'll see on May 5th...

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