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  • mic573
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    #11
    Everyone wants to pick out Cotto's flaw over and over. Yes he has flaws as does just about every boxer but the thing is he keeps winning.

    Was he hurt by Corley? Yes but he came back and stopped him.
    Was he hurt by Torres? Yes but he came back and stopped him.
    Does Cotto get hit alot? Yes but he also hits his opponents alot and harder.

    When it all comes down to it, Cotto was supposed to lose a long time ago but yet he stands undefeated at 29-0 with 24 KOs. The man puts on exciting fights so instead of looking for him to lose people should be praising him for winning in exciting fashion.

    Cotto already is a star and he will be a superstar soon.

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    • oldgringo
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      #12
      Originally posted by mic573
      Everyone wants to pick out Cotto's flaw over and over. Yes he has flaws as does just about every boxer but the thing is he keeps winning.

      Was he hurt by Corley? Yes but he came back and stopped him.
      Was he hurt by Torres? Yes but he came back and stopped him.
      Does Cotto get hit alot? Yes but he also hits his opponents alot and harder.

      When it all comes down to it, Cotto was supposed to lose a long time ago but yet he stands undefeated at 29-0 with 24 KOs. The man puts on exciting fights so instead of looking for him to lose people should be praising him for winning in exciting fashion.

      Cotto already is a star and he will be a superstar soon.
      Well put. 10 or 20 more speculation threads on Cotto losing by this guy and I might actually throw up a little bit.

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      • Addison
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        #13
        Originally posted by oldgringo
        Well put. 10 or 20 more speculation threads on Cotto losing by this guy and I might actually throw up a little bit.
        I feel the same way.

        Only just the opposite.

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        • oldgringo
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          #14
          Originally posted by Addison
          I feel the same way.

          Only just the opposite.

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          • Sttuddahboy619
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            #15
            In PR he is a Big Star....in the boxing world that still remains to be seen...he is still young so he has time to prove that!

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            • Soldier01
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              #16
              Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496
              I think people are too BIG on Cotto. He really hasn't proved anything. Is he a good fighter? Yes no doubt. Is he a top fighter pound for pound? No, not right now because he really hasn't tested himself.

              Like it or not and I don't mean to offend any Puerto Rican's in this forum but fighter from PR are either hit or miss. They tend to coddle their fighters and not take any chances with them. They hardly fight outside of PR and only set up big fights when the style fits or the money is right.

              Now that is good smart thinking but we just don't know how good Cotto really is. Cotto has had alot of problems with fiighters either past their prime or fighters he should have beaten easily.

              They did the same with Trinidad and he turned out to be a top star but I still think he lost to DLH and he was dependent too much on his power to win fights. But Trinidad did turn out to be a very good fighter, I wouldn't use the word "great' with him.

              Only time will tell if Cotto is the real deal and this is a first step (judah) in his career to either super star or just "good" fighter.
              None taken. Do you care to name some fighters that in your opinion was "cuddled". You can't get that with Trinidad because that man fought plenty of top caliber fighters and never dodged anyone.

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              • PRboxingfan
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                #17
                Originally posted by Shanus
                He has hand picked his opponents, it's no coincidence that his opponents have been feather fisted since his fight with Torres.
                Not true. He jumped 7 pounds to face an opponent who had a very good KO ratio and whom many thought would beat him: Quintana. While many will now say that the only "name" he'd beaten was Julio, the fact still remains that many of the boxing scribes picked him to KO Cotto. Remember this: http://www.thesweetscience.com/boxin...t-predictions/ ?


                Originally posted by Shanus
                The thing about Miguel Cotto that can be taken advantage of is the fact that he's a plodder, he doesn't chase you down, he walks you down.

                That's the only reason I picked Malignaggi to beat him, and I think Malignaggi could still beat him with the right gameplan, he just never fought his fight at all.
                Many also chose the feather-fisted Malignaggi on style alone. Paulie did have a good fight and showed a monster chin, but Cotto hits way too hard and that's what put Paulie off his gameplan.

                Miguel is a plotter, tho, but he is very adept at cutting off the ring. That's why fighters like Quintana, Malignaggi, and Pinto were never able to run away from Cotto successfully. They'd try to move away and Cotto was right there.

                Cotto is in for a fight with Zab, tho. Many people are picking Cotto to lose this time as well. Zab is the fastest fighter that Cotto has ever faced and it will prove that he can handle the speed and the power. Zab is not a big WW but he's still considered dangerous. Zab will show up in full force, too, because he knows that this is his big meal ticket. If Zab wants to contend at WW, he's going to have to get by Cotto.

                As for the other WWs beating him, I only see Mosley beating Cotto. I think he rolls through Williams, Margo, and Cintron.

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                • Del Coqui
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by cuauhtemoc1496
                  I think people are too BIG on Cotto. He really hasn't proved anything. Is he a good fighter? Yes no doubt. Is he a top fighter pound for pound? No, not right now because he really hasn't tested himself.

                  Like it or not and I don't mean to offend any Puerto Rican's in this forum but fighter from PR are either hit or miss. They tend to coddle their fighters and not take any chances with them. They hardly fight outside of PR and only set up big fights when the style fits or the money is right.

                  They did the same with Trinidad and he turned out to be a top star but I still think he lost to DLH and he was dependent too much on his power to win fights. But Trinidad did turn out to be a very good fighter, I wouldn't use the word "great' with him.
                  No disrespect but you're full of ****. Cotto KOd Pinto, his amateur nemesis who beat him twice very impressively, stopped Abdullaev who also beat him and was a gold medallist, has beaten many rugged and tough fighters and have seen all kinds of boxers and punchers as well. Keep in mind this guy has only 28 fights and already has about 8 title bouts. Who was the "great" JCC fighting in his 28th bout, or Ricky Hatton, or many other p4p of today.
                  About PRs being babied, you need to look at Tito's career a bit closer, Gomez, Benitez, and the list goes on and on.

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                  • Mike_R
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                    #19
                    if cotto can beat zab they should put him in with shane. those 2 fights alone could go ahead and figure this all out for us regarding what miguel is made of.

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                    • machotime
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                      #20
                      The fact is that there are Cotto fans, Cotto haters, and neutral fans. Miguel Cotto is a fighter that has many flaws, not due to talent, but due to lack of situational intelligence. Miguel Cotto's biggest flaw is his desire to please the fans. When analyzing Miguel, one cannot discount his power, body punching techniques, and ring cutting ability. His chin has been tested twice, but he has not been finished or even really dropped (the Ricardo Torres KD was a push). My analysis yeilds that Cotto is an excellent puncher, extremely exciting, and provides fan pleasing performances. Many people stated that Quintana was way too much for him to handle.... he dismantled Quintana in amazing fashion. His performance against Urkal also was impressive. Ricardo Torres holds one of the belts at 140, beating Arnoutis. He has dismantled fighters that have never been beaten, never KD, never KOed.

                      I will say that Miguel Cotto is already a world known boxer, he still has years of fights in him and so much potential. Miguel Cotto fights like a champ, has champ like capabilities, acts like a champ, and is a peoples champ.... that alone will keep miguel in the spotlight for some time.

                      The Cotto Haters will always point out his flaws, regardless of who he beats. When he beats Zab and KO's him, people will say that Cotto fought a washed up Zab who has no chin.... In other words, to these people, there is nothing that Cotto can do right.

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