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I'm not so sure that you could. Lewis was knocked out a couple of times mostly due to complacency and at times arrogance. He COULD quite easily have gone through his career and been considered one of the greatest fighters of all time. But because of this desire to prove himself as 'entertaining', he left a question mark over his career.
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Man, how do these threads always end up a listing of Lewis' accomplishments? All someone has to do is state that Lewis didn't have an Iron chin....here comes the: He was a Great fighter. He beat everyone he faced. He beat Holyfield
It has nothing to do with his damn chin. LMFAO.
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Lewis had a decent chin no more no less.
He didn't have a glass jaw as many in the press have stated but it wasn't iron either.
Not sure why this thread has took off to be honest?Comment
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Lewis had a mediocre chin. He had height, athleticism, and a good eye in there when he was focused (the lapses in focus present during both career setbacks, and the Vitali fight) which helped his chances of surviving those big shots that got through. He saw them, moved back while up on his toes, and rolled with them, as they say. He was a smart fighter and a well trained one, but his chin was closer to tin than iron.
Guys with iron chins don't get laid out against someone like Rahman. Dropped sure, I'll admit anyone can be dropped, but Rahman does not dispose of durable heavyweights in that fashion. Now granted McCall was a big puncher, and I always remember that being a devastating knockout, but looking back through the aid of youtube it wasn't that great of a punch. Solid, but not explosive by heavyweight championship standards. As for those who criticize the stoppage, did you personally look into Lewis's eyes as he was staggering into the ropes to gauge his condition? How can you speculate what kind of shape he was in when you weren't there? All we have to go on was his body language, and to me he looked like a very hurt fighter. I'll go with the licensed ref standing a few feet away over a fan's opniion.
Getting back to the subject: Lewis had the equipment to deal with most punches coming his way when he was expected them but when robbed of these resources by the element of surprise, and his chin was his last line of defense, it did not hold up very well.Comment
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It really isnt possible to say Lennox had a great chin because he wasnt one to take too many punches in his career. Towards the end of his career he was taking the punishment from Vitali and this is when he was showing what his chin was made of. It was OK because he didnt get knocked out by Vitali. But Lennox got out of the game at the right time. Just when he started to have to get hit more often. If you can get hit you can get beat.Comment
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so because lewis took all those shots, you say he had an iron chin?
people on this forum need to learn, just because you have a weak chin doesnt mean every punch you take has the chance to knock you out or hurt you or drop you.
lewis' chin wasnt that great, but he had great balance and was good with recovering. but when he got hit with those big punches, his lack of retaliation showed he was hurt, maybe not staggered, but hurt enough to pull back and recoup.
tua had an iron chin, holyfield had an iron chin, tyson had a good chin (but not a great mentality), mccall had an iron chin. lewis didnt.
lewis chin was less than average. thats it. it wasnt weak, it wasnt iron, it wasnt average. less than average.Comment
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Mccall was number 1 mandatory contender, Rahman was number 5 rated, so not huge underdogs, in fact many people predicted that lewis would lose the Rahman fight because of his preparation.
The Rahman loss was not one punch, he is clearly hurt but remained standing 30 seconds before the end when he takes a huge right hand as seen in this clip, that hurt wouldnt of just worn off by the time the final punch landed and clearly his hands dropping could be attributed to his tired and hurt condition, the accumilation cant be discounted yet he was even getting up and not lying flat out like roy jones.
The point is, he could take a flush Rahman right hand and remain standing, he took a few so to suggest that thats all it took was for one punch to land is disengenious, the final shot caught him unbalanced bouncing off the ropes with no grounding in his legs and he actually got his legs tangled up with the incoming Rahmans.
Also, i doubt small men like Marciano or schmelling had as much power as these much bigger men.Last edited by lennon; 03-15-2007, 06:05 PM.Comment
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