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  • beez721
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    #41
    Originally posted by lennon
    Mccall was number 1 mandatory contender, Rahman was number 5 rated, so not huge underdogs, in fact many people predicted that lewis would lose the Rahman fight because of his preparation.

    The Rahman loss was not one punch, he is clearly hurt but remained standing 30 seconds before the end when he takes a huge right hand as seen in this clip, that hurt wouldnt of just worn off by the time the final punch landed and clearly his hands dropping could be attributed to his tired and hurt condition, the accumilation cant be discounted yet he was even getting up and not lying flat out like roy jones.


    The point is, he could take a flush Rahman right hand and remain standing, he took a few so to suggest that thats all it took was for one punch to land is disengenious, the final shot caught him unbalanced bouncing off the ropes with no grounding in his legs and he actually got his legs tangled up with the incoming Rahmans.
    Also, i doubt small men like Marciano or schmelling had as much power as these much bigger men.

    both rahman and mcall were big underdogs and I dont recall any of them being given much of a chance

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    • Kid Achilles
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      #42
      Also, i doubt small men like Marciano or schmelling had as much power as these much bigger men.
      Size does not make a puncher. A lighter man like Joe Louis's punches were visibly much more powerful than Rahman's as evidenced in the way 250 lb men react to his shots on film. I don't just mean knocked out, where it's an issue of chin, but the way their heads and upper bodies are thrown around like a ragdoll from his punches.

      I'd rather take a punch from Rahman than Marciano, Dempsey, or Louis. Those guys were killers, Rahman is not.

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      • lennon
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        #43
        Originally posted by Kid Achilles
        Size does not make a puncher. A lighter man like Joe Louis's punches were visibly much more powerful than Rahman's as evidenced in the way 250 lb men react to his shots on film. I don't just mean knocked out, where it's an issue of chin, but the way their heads and upper bodies are thrown around like a ragdoll from his punches.

        I'd rather take a punch from Rahman than Marciano, Dempsey, or Louis. Those guys were killers, Rahman is not.
        How many 250 pound men did they fight?

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        • lennon
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          #44
          Originally posted by beez721
          both rahman and mcall were big underdogs and I dont recall any of them being given much of a chance
          Right before the Rahman fight in the final few days the media were all speculating on Lewis arriving late in South Africa and not taking it seriously, even the HBO guys suggested there were shades of Tyson before Tokyo and that there was an upset brewing as did the British press.

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          • deuce_drop
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            #45
            Originally posted by lennon
            Mccall was number 1 mandatory contender, Rahman was number 5 rated, so not huge underdogs, in fact many people predicted that lewis would lose the Rahman fight because of his preparation.

            The Rahman loss was not one punch, he is clearly hurt but remained standing 30 seconds before the end when he takes a huge right hand as seen in this clip, that hurt wouldnt of just worn off by the time the final punch landed and clearly his hands dropping could be attributed to his tired and hurt condition, the accumilation cant be discounted yet he was even getting up and not lying flat out like roy jones.


            The point is, he could take a flush Rahman right hand and remain standing, he took a few so to suggest that thats all it took was for one punch to land is disengenious, the final shot caught him unbalanced bouncing off the ropes with no grounding in his legs and he actually got his legs tangled up with the incoming Rahmans.
            Also, i doubt small men like Marciano or schmelling had as much power as these much bigger men.

            the thing is all night long rahman was throwing the right hand over lewis' left, throwing it over and over all fight long, the one punch he threw that went under was the one that ko'd lewis because lewis was expecting the punch to come over and it went under hitting him square on the jaw.............

            this is the thing if lewis had such a weak chin he wouldn't have won all the fights that he did and he wouldn't have avenged his losses. you have to be able to take a punch period if you're a boxer, your chin has to be good enough for you to take a punch and keep fighting and win, and lewis did just that, all you self proclaimed experts think you can judge a mans sturdiness of a mans chin by his faults. saying he had an iron chin is a stretch but to say he had a decent chin is calling it how it is and giving the Heavyweight Champ the respect he deserves, the man retired Heavyweight Champ, he didn't retire sighting and claiming injuries, he retired on top knowing he was on top and he wasn't going to let someone knock him off, props to lewis for that. everyone can talk negative about him but the fact remains he took heavyweight shots won, avenged his losses, and retired a Champ on top.................lennox lewis had a decent chin.

            now the question is out of all the boxers that everyone says had a better chin than lewis who had the best out of all of them?

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              #46
              James Toney Only because the mechanism in his brain that tells him when he should be knocked out isnt working.

              just like fat peoples stomachs not telling them they are full up so they just eat.
              Last edited by hugh grant; 03-15-2007, 07:30 PM.

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                #47
                Originally posted by hugh grant
                James Toney
                there you go, i agree 1000% on james toney having the best chin..........moving up from middleweight to heavyweight and never getting stopped. that is the iron chin everyone has been talking about but hasn't mentioned it until now.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by deuce_drop
                  there you go, i agree 1000% on james toney having the best chin..........moving up from middleweight to heavyweight and never getting stopped. that is the iron chin everyone has been talking about but hasn't mentioned it until now.
                  So agreed....there we have it. Lennox had a workhorse chin...it did the job throughout his career apart from on 2 occasions. But Toneys was an elite chin....given from the man upstairs. Toney was the chosen one.

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                  • lennon
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by hugh grant
                    So agreed....there we have it. Lennox had a workhorse chin...it did the job throughout his career apart from on 2 occasions. But Toneys was an elite chin....given from the man upstairs. Toney was the chosen one.
                    But did you hear him slurring after the Peter fight, not being able to talk for the rest of his life is a high price for that chin.

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                    • deuce_drop
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by lennon
                      But did you hear him slurring after the Peter fight, not being able to talk for the rest of his life is a high price for that chin.
                      i dunno i've heard toney talk normal and then when he does interviews he gets all ****** and starts mumbling, but i'm sure in fact know that it's done some damage, you ca't get away with taking massive shots your whole career and not have it affect you in some way.
                      Last edited by deuce_drop; 03-15-2007, 07:57 PM.

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