Who's the most over-rated fighter of all time ?

[mECHsLAVE]

Probably not the most overrated of all time but De La Hoya is definitely overrated. Never had a dominating win against an elite level opponent lost in his prime twice to Shane Mosely who is naturally smaller plus the guy never fights and when he does it's not overly impressing in like the last 6 years.

He clearly beat Trinidad, and Mosely the second time. His level of competition is simply UNMATCHED among active fighters. I really don't think he's overrated at all. He should never have been in the ring with Hopkins. And his only legit loss was against Mosely the first time, and that was fairly close. Given the level of fighters he has faced, and the results he's had, there is no way he can be on an overrated list. I mean, if he is, then who ISN'T overrated???

[The Troll]

He clearly beat Trinidad, and Mosely the second time. His level of competition is simply UNMATCHED among active fighters. I really don't think he's overrated at all. He should never have been in the ring with Hopkins. And his only legit loss was against Mosely the first time, and that was fairly close. Given the level of fighters he has faced, and the results he's had, there is no way he can be on an overrated list. I mean, if he is, then who ISN'T overrated???

He still never had a dominating performance against an elite level fighter no matter the discrepencies in scoring for certain bouts.

[Underboss]

Lol people with little boxing knowledge will be able to identify foreman or frazier.

i understand that, but not 100% of the people in this WORLD are familiar with the 60's boxers.

[TheEvilSaint]

sugar ray leonard.

[The Surgeon]

5 0ut of 10 guys down the pub wouldnt know Joe Frazier
8 out of 10 wouldnt know Norton or Holmes!
But all would know Ali and Foreman (Mainly for his Grills tho!)

[Underboss]

5 0ut of 10 guys down the pub wouldnt know Joe Frazier
8 out of 10 wouldnt know Norton or Holmes!
But all would know Ali and Foreman (Mainly for his Grills tho!)

finally someone agrees (the first 2)

the last one is funny, when i first saw george foreman 8 years ago with his grill. i bought his grill because of the hamburgers. but then after i purchased espn classics 2 years later i saw the fight of muhammad ali v.s george foreman, and i was like '' WAT THE HELL?? ISN'T THAT THE BOLD BUY WHO SELLS GRILLS??'' before i saw that fight i never knew foreman was a boxer before selling grills.

[shawn_]

I would disagree, everyone would know howard cosell, and what is howard cosells most famous call? DOWN GOES FRAZIER! DOWN GOES FRAZIER! DOWN GOES FRAZIER!

If sombody older than 15 doesnt know that, Im sure they are suffering some mental defficits.

[The Surgeon]

I would disagree, everyone would know howard cosell, and what is howard cosells most famous call? DOWN GOES FRAZIER! DOWN GOES FRAZIER! DOWN GOES FRAZIER!

If sombody older than 15 doesnt know that, Im sure they are suffering some mental defficits.

Not in the UK they wouldnt

[butterfly1964]

You all are gonna jump on me for saying this, but it's Rocky Marciano. I know, I know, "You're a Marciano hater, a racist, this and that, bla bla bla bla, bla!!!" But think about it. Marciano often gets credit for being a top 3-5 heavyweight of all-time. Why is that? He was extremely protected coming up, possibly the most protected future heavyweight champion in history. He then fights aging fighters like Joe Louis and Lee Savold, and guys who were built up by padded records themselves like Harry Kid Matthews. H did manage to beat good fighters like Rex Layne, and Carmine Vingo, although they themselves were very green. The best guy he fought pre-title was probably Roland LaStarza, and most people (including LaStarza) thought it was a gift win. He wins the title from another aging fighter in Walcott, and then after rematching a completely shot version of Jersey Joe, takes advantage of a not 100% version of LaStarza. He goes life and death twice with the ceramic jawed Ezzard Charles, who was a far cry from the fighter he was during the turn of the half-century. Then Rocky fights a fat tub of lard from Britain, (who didn't have any business getting a title shot in the first place) Don ****ell, and then get's the shock of his life from a pensioned-off Archie Moore before finally getting on top of him.

Most people rank him the way they do because he was undefeated. But the competition paled in comparison to Ali's, Liston's, Lewis', or even Louis' or Tyson's competition (during his first title reign of course). He was only 185-190, and 5'-10 or 11". how good could someone like that be. His skills were horrendous, yet because of "heart" alone, many have him beating guys like Tyson, Lewis, Holmes and Ali? Rocky's resume wasn't extremely terrible, but IMO it's not enough to get ranked in the top 3 or even top 5, period.

[brownpimp88]

You all are gonna jump on me for saying this, but it's Rocky Marciano. I know, I know, "You're a Marciano hater, a racist, this and that, bla bla bla bla, bla!!!" But think about it. Marciano often gets credit for being a top 3-5 heavyweight of all-time. Why is that? He was extremely protected coming up, possibly the most protected future heavyweight champion in history. He then fights aging fighters like Joe Louis and Lee Savold, and guys who were built up by padded records themselves like Harry Kid Matthews. H did manage to beat good fighters like Rex Layne, and Carmine Vingo, although they themselves were very green. The best guy he fought pre-title was probably Roland LaStarza, and most people (including LaStarza) thought it was a gift win. He wins the title from another aging fighter in Walcott, and then after rematching a completely shot version of Jersey Joe, takes advantage of a not 100% version of LaStarza. He goes life and death twice with the ceramic jawed Ezzard Charles, who was a far cry from the fighter he was during the turn of the half-century. Then Rocky fights a fat tub of lard from Britain, (who didn't have any business getting a title shot in the first place) Don ****ell, and then get's the shock of his life from a pensioned-off Archie Moore before finally getting on top of him.

Most people rank him the way they do because he was undefeated. But the competition paled in comparison to Ali's, Liston's, Lewis', or even Louis' or Tyson's competition (during his first title reign of course). He was only 185-190, and 5'-10 or 11". how good could someone like that be. His skills were horrendous, yet because of "heart" alone, many have him beating guys like Tyson, Lewis, Holmes and Ali? Rocky's resume wasn't extremely terrible, but IMO it's not enough to get ranked in the top 3 or even top 5, period.

The more i see butterfly post, the more impressed i get.