Who's the most over-rated fighter of all time ?

[Easy-E]

Please explain to me how Robinson is the most over-rated fighter in boxing? He was around in an era where boxers didnt get over-rated or under-rated cos the promoting was different back then and more fighters fought the best. Robinson fought the best and beat them. Look at his record against LaMotta. In my opinion LaMotta is a legend and Robinson used to make him his ***** back in the day.

LaMotta is overrated too.
He had a good chin, but minimal skills and power.
SRR is overrated because he is "Number 1 p4p all time" but many of those who claim that have never seen him fight.

[Piggu]

Are you reffering to Ali? Well I'm sorry if plenty of posters here including you, haven't seen "the greatest fight". But in the same context you can't also say that the guy is over rated. No basis at all buddy.

This guy brought boxing to it's peak during his era. He fought in the Ba*****, in Germany, in Bankok , in the Phillipines, in Congo, In the Domincam Republic, Jakarta Indonesia, Ireland, Japan, Switcherland, England, Canada and a lot of U.S. cities and you know what? These are all sold out seats. Does anybody in the modern history of this sports even come close in doing that? Why? Because he has skills, speed, power and most important of all charisma.

Can you call the guy over rated? Compare it to the modern day fighters like SRL, Hatton, Pbf and all the rest . . . these people doesn't even want to fight out of U.S. or U.K. for christ sake.

No offense but you typed all that for nothing. I didn't mean Ali, of course not. Everyone knows Muhammad Ali's credentials are there.

I'M talking about those guys who nobody even has footage of there fights. Like all those black heavyweights who didn't get title shots.

You need to have more faith in my boxing knowledge, Herr Psychopath.

[Underboss]

You are totally incorrect.
They are some of the most recognizable fighters in history.

they are the most recognizable fighters in history but the whole world still dont know who they are. ALOT OF PEOPLE know who they are, those are the real fans, but not the rest of the people.

this new generation doesnt focuse that much on old fighters, just the new ones. but i may be wrong.

[Easy-E]

they are the most recognizable fighters in history but the whole world still dont know who they are. ALOT OF PEOPLE know who they are, those are the real fans, but not the rest of the people.

this new generation doesnt focuse that much on old fighters, just the new ones. but i may be wrong.

Obviously theres people who dont know who they are, but those people are most certianly not boxing fans.
Even sports fans know who they are, through Ali of course.

[psychopath]

I'm going to bite the bullet and go with Ali, and I'll tell you why:

Ali was a great fighter. He fought great fighters. He was in one of the best heavyweight eras in history and he was top dog. But this isn't a discussion about whether or not he was a great fighter. It's about how he is overrated, not necessarily by the boxing fraternity, but by the general public. Ali was a shameless self promoter and it was effective. He called himself "The Greatest" so many times that it caught on. But most boxing folks would disagree. Most would have SRR as the best ever boxer, and many would have Joe Louis as the best heavyweight. Would Ali make the top five? On many, maybe most lists, he would. But the way he is revered as the greatest you would think that even his farts have knuckles. If you have a great fighter who is considered by most people on the planet as having been the best there ever was then that is far more overrated than having a good boxer that was considered by a tny minority of his fans as being good. Ali is rated beyond what I see as his ability by far more people than someone like Tyson (whose "badness" was overrated, and whose current claim to fame has more to do with jail time and bancruptcy than it does to do with pugilism) or one of those black and white fellows that boxing purists are so fond of.

To put it another way if you took a poll of a hundred non-fans and asked them who the greatest boxer of all time is, 95 would say Ali. A couple might say Tyson or something. Not one would say Harry Greb or Willie Pep. If you took a poll of ten boxing experts and asked the same question, 9 of them would say Robinson. That's why he's the most overrated fighter despite being in actuality one of the most gifted fighters ever to grace the ring.

Well explained . . . I can see your point clearly. That can be attributed to him being a known figure in and out of the ring. The guy created such a reputation.

[Underboss]

Obviously theres people who dont know who they are, but those people are most certianly not boxing fans.
Even sports fans know who they are, through Ali of course.

yea man, you got a point. if your not a fan of the past then theirs no way in hell your not a fan of nothing.

[psychopath]

No offense but you typed all that for nothing. I didn't mean Ali, of course not. Everyone knows Muhammad Ali's credentials are there.

I'M talking about those guys who nobody even has footage of there fights. Like all those black heavyweights who didn't get title shots.

You need to have more faith in my boxing knowledge, Herr Psychopath.

Oh I'm sorry about that. I took the que from this phrase "as the number 1 fighter of all time". I really thought you're reffering to Ali.

Anyway there has been a very good exchanges of opinions here and so far nobody has messed it up yet.

[Run]

By boxing fans.......Ike Ibeabuchi and easily.

With only 20 wins (one a close decision against Tua that I thought should have gone the other way.) and a beat down of Byrd that made him the G.O.A.T.



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[Easy-E]

By boxing fans.......Ike Ibeabuchi and easily.

With only 20 wins (one a close decision against Tua that I thought should have gone the other way.) and a beat down of Byrd that made him the G.O.A.T.

Well I think many people rate him on what he could have been, not what he did.
I thought he edged Tua.
It was an excellent fight, though.

[Run]

Well I think many people rate him on what he could have been, not what he did.
I thought he edged Tua.
It was an excellent fight, though.

Good fight, but people get too carried away.

I've seen enough "Ike would stop prime Tyson" jazz. *yawns*



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