Marciano ruined boxing...

[realheavyhands]

they tried to get rocky out of retirement to fight patterson

[Chipper]

ya blame it on the rock and not on the promoters

[Benny Leonard]

Well I am sorry to spoil the news to all the Maricano nuthuggers, but he did dodge a fight with the big Japanese (Gojira, AKA GODZILLA), so Marciano is not the greatest.

That's right, Godzilla came on the scene big in 1954, and guess who retired a year later? That's right, good old 49-0 scardy cat Marciano.

[RockyMarcianofan00]

Well I am sorry to spoil the news to all the Maricano nuthuggers, but he did dodge a fight with the big Japanese (Gojira, AKA GODZILLA), so Marciano is not the greatest.

That's right, Godzilla came on the scene big in 1954, and guess who retired a year later? That's right, good old 49-0 scardy cat Marciano.

Do you have any proof of this because I've heard anybody, not even the biggest Marciano haters ever say anything about this...

And honestly if this "Godzilla" came on the scene in 1954 he would have no right to challenge Marciano, you can't just start fighting and challenge the Heavyweight champion of the world...

[titoi]

That's right, Godzilla came on the scene big in 1954, and guess who retired a year later? That's right, good old 49-0 scardy cat Marciano.

I was just *waiting* for somebody to play the tired old giant-space-lizard card

[Ramamaiden]

very interesting thread. i think that your point of view is really interesting, but there is something that i am very confused about.
What years did the wba and wbc started???...cos on the old times there werent that many federeations, so per weight there was only one world champion. but now its "easy" to be a champion and not fight the best one on the category, because of all the belts that are out there.

well, if im wrong please correct me =P



and something else to add, im very surprise that there are a lot of people that hate marciano. i thought that he was respected and admired by almost everyone =P.

[squealpiggy]

I don't hate Marciano at all. I just don't rate him that highly just because he retired undefeated. He had a tremendous achievement but his undefeated record suddenly became something a target to aim for as opposed to something that happened. It became more important in the minds of promoters and fighters than fighting the best.

The word robbery is thrown around so much in boxing lately that half the time I don't even listen. Next if a fighter gets knocked out, they're going to say he was robbed.

People are still saying that Vitali Klitschko was robbed against Lennox Lewis, when half of Vitali's face was hanging off.

[me2007]

I dont think Marciano is the reason...

I see the creation of all these championship belts as the real reason why top fighters are able to avoid eachother and maintain an unbeaten record.

If there was one championship belt for each weight, it would be impossible to avoid fighters in the same division with zero's in the lose column.

Boxers and promoters and the governing bodies should sort this mess out, if they did, and people could recognise the one champion at each weight, boxing would be GREAT again.

edit: looks like someone already made this point.....

[leff]

I AGREE.. EVEN THO A COUPLE BLACK FIGHTERS WERE ROBBED AGAINST HIM ...

who were robbed?

[leff]

.....Damn, this new guy is good. Excellent thread topic and very well thought out.

indeed,its exellent