Marciano ruined boxing...

[-Hyperion-]

that is interesting to hear, I have to look further into int. Thank You for the information

lol ur welcome, Musashi is my idol, since i first read Vagabond, and i started to investigate a lot about his life

[RockyMarcianofan00]

Yeah don't start this anti-Marciano **** because he's white. The good black fighters of the day all lost to him BY KNOCKOUT.

precisely

[Benny Leonard]

Who had the quote that said "Show me a fighter that hasn't lost, and I will show you a fighter who hasn't fought anybody" ?

[Benny Leonard]

lol ur welcome, Musashi is my idol, since i first read Vagabond, and i started to investigate a lot about his life

I started reading about him a couple of years ago, incredible read.

[realheavyhands]

No black fighters were ever robbed against him...The only fighter that ever had a chance of being robbed against him was Roland LaStarza, and the reason behind that MD was because Marciano
A)hadn't trained
B)was afraid to go full force
both were in response to almost killing the fighter in his previous fight (Carmine Vingo)...

No other black fighter was robbed...

Black Fighters like Ezzard Charles and Jersey Joe Walcott did well against him but neither were robbed my friend...

ted lowry. early early in his career the were many questionable decisions

[realheavyhands]

Yeah don't start this anti-Marciano **** because he's white. The good black fighters of the day all lost to him BY KNOCKOUT.

wnot becuase hes white becuase hes slow easy to hit and still lost to ezzard charles and ted lowry and maybe more early in his career.." the only good black fighter he fought were almost 40 and he refused to fight floyd patterson.. he was a good fighter but really had less talent then most,,

[El Jesus]

according to vagabond(manga) and Musashi(novel) i think Musashi lost to Inshun of the Hozoin but ran away before being killed, but beat him in a rematch almost killing him. I know Musashi and Vagbond are not official, but I think Eiji said according to his investigations, it did happen

Alot of that stuff is about confirmed as his participation at the battle of Sekiagahara, Musashi's life and times are extremely hard to confirm because of all the bull**** heresay that comes with it.

[monkeyboy]

Very nice thread. Interesting points that I cannot dissagree with.
I would be less of a Duran fan if he hadn't tried to take on the biggest challenges that he could reasonably face.
His legend resonates so strongly because he tested himself so hard against the undisputed best at way beyond his natural weight. That he was battered by Hearns and pyschologically beaten by Leonard (the second time) still speak volumes over him not taking those challenges and keeping his sheet clean.
'0' really means nothing.

[RockyMarcianofan00]

wnot becuase hes white becuase hes slow easy to hit and still lost to ezzard charles and ted lowry and maybe more early in his career.." the only good black fighter he fought were almost 40 and he refused to fight floyd patterson.. he was a good fighter but really had less talent then most,,

your kidding me right?

Patterson ducked Marciano
Odd how Marciano wanted to fight Patterson but Floyd's people wouldn't make the fight, and as soon as Marciano retired Patterson was the first one to step up and fight for the title...

[Brockton Lip]

The word robbery is thrown around so much in boxing lately that half the time I don't even listen. Next if a fighter gets knocked out, they're going to say he was robbed.
Marciano against Tiger Ted, from what I read and heard were very close fights. I would say robbery is the wrong word to use, if that is what someone was thinking. A robbery is Walcott-Louis I or Brinkley-Bonsante. There was another fight called a robbery that just happened but I didn't see it so I won't mention more of it.