How will Oscar get through Mayweathers defence?

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  • ThaHorseman
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    #11
    Originally posted by wmute
    beat on his arms, body and shoulder until mayweather slows down. I would say do not even consider his head for 4 rounds. make sure all of his left arm hurts like hell. make sure the defensive movements that are usually so instinctive as painful as possible after a few rounds.

    Oscar has a huge problem here: is stamina.
    if you want to bully mayweather you need it.
    if you want to give him side movements, you need it.

    as for timing mayweather? forget about it
    I was thinking pretty much the same thing. If Oscar tries to bully Floyd around he'll be gassed after 8 instead of 10 and Floyd will pick him apart easily for the last 4 rounds. I would expect Floyd to fight DLH much like he did Judah. He'll be watching for the left all day and ducking down to his left instead of right to avoid it. He'll potshot and get inside on DLH to avoid being hit because when have you ever seen DLH fight inside? Every significant punch I've ever seen him land has been from the outside. If Oscar comes at Floyd hard to go for a KO then I would expect Floyd to constantly be moving and covering up letting Oscar wear himself down. He should win an easy UD and then have to hear everyone say he shouldn't be considered great because he didn't KO Oscar like he said he would.

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    • shawn_
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      #12
      I think oscar will want to put lots of pressure on mayweather early on, but not actualy put any power behind his shots. He wont want to fully extend his jab either. He needs to let Floyd get comfortable and feel out of range. Once he has Floyd comfortable he can start to fully extend and really put some juice into his shots. He needs to catching Floyd when he feels he is safe, kinda like George Foreman use to do in the second half of his career.

      He should do the same thing with his hook. Oscar has a deceptively long reach with his hook. I think he needs to keep it short in the early rounds to let Floyd develope a false sense of distance.

      If he lets Floyd stay on his toes, he will have a very difficult time breaking through his defense, but if he can get him to feel comfortable, he can catch him off gaurd.

      I think it is true that timing beats speed, and it is a truth that will be important to Oscars game plan.

      I think Floyd has started to fall into the trap that many great fighters (Reguardless of what you think, he is great) have in the past. He has become so confident in his abilities, that he has let his fundamental grasp on boxing basics start to slip. If you watch Floyd earlier in his career, he was a textbook example of technical brilliance. As of late, I feel he has abandoned much of his fundamental skill set in favor of his natural abilities.

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      • psychopath
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        #13
        Originally posted by Sandro17
        I'm Pretty sure Mayweathers defence isn't perfect but I can't imagine Oscar getting past it.

        As we all know Oscar will need to throw more than 1 punch at a time to hurt Mayweather. But do you think Oscar can catch Mayweather with a big left hook while Mayweather's coming in?
        Every fighter who goes up the ring get's hit buddy. Oscar doesn't have to chase PBF. He needs to wait for PBF to come in and let him pay while doing so. Oscar needs to invest on body punches instead of head hunting. If DLH slows down PBF and forced the guy to trade and force him to play defense then DLH will be okay.

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        • hugh grant
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          #14
          Lots of boxing opinions here as if this forum is full of wanabee trainers. I think DLH has seen enough tapes of PBF and knows in his own mind what hes got to do. DLH is pretty smart when it comes to boxing. He knows what it takes. Im sure he has got a plan A, and if it dont work a plan B and C.

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          • phallus
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            #15
            Originally posted by psychopath
            Every fighter who goes up the ring get's hit buddy. Oscar doesn't have to chase PBF. He needs to wait for PBF to come in and let him pay while doing so. Oscar needs to invest on body punches instead of head hunting. If DLH slows down PBF and forced the guy to trade and force him to play defense then DLH will be okay.
            floyd doesn't like pressure. if dlh could fight more like jl castillo this time around he could get to floyd. i just don't think oscar has the stamina to cut off the ring and hit floyd's body for 12 rounds

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            • Welter_Skelter
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              #16
              Originally posted by Sandro17
              I'm Pretty sure Mayweathers defence isn't perfect but I can't imagine Oscar getting past it.

              As we all know Oscar will need to throw more than 1 punch at a time to hurt Mayweather. But do you think Oscar can catch Mayweather with a big left hook while Mayweather's coming in?
              Now if you put Floyd above humanity kid.. you are only going to be dissapointed. How will ODLH get through Floyds defense is the rideculous question.. AKS yourself .. How did Corley? Burton/Agustus? Castillio? Judah? Baldomir??? all mange to hit Floyd??? because he is ONLY human fool..
              And if Carlos Baldomir can connect on Floyd.. You better believe ODLH can

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              • BigCol
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                #17
                Originally posted by dr filth
                floyd doesn't like pressure. if dlh could fight more like jl castillo this time around he could get to floyd. i just don't think oscar has the stamina to cut off the ring and hit floyd's body for 12 rounds
                Oscar can't just change his style at the tail end of his career. He stands straight up, he is textbook, and he likes to fight on the outside. Castillo is a squat, muscular guy who pressures inside and uses alot of feints and clinching. Oscar can't just mirror Castillo - it wont work anyways.

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                • freedom213
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by hugh grant
                  Lots of boxing opinions here as if this forum is full of wanabee trainers. I think DLH has seen enough tapes of PBF and knows in his own mind what hes got to do. DLH is pretty smart when it comes to boxing. He knows what it takes. Im sure he has got a plan A, and if it dont work a plan B and C.
                  Dont you know DLH is countin on us?

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                  • psychopath
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by dr filth
                    floyd doesn't like pressure. if dlh could fight more like jl castillo this time around he could get to floyd. i just don't think oscar has the stamina to cut off the ring and hit floyd's body for 12 rounds
                    Bro we cannot take PBF's fight against Castillo as a refference here. That happened long long time ago when PBF was still a limited fighter in terms of ring experience. In as much as I agree with you on PBF not wanting pressure, he now moves back and moves in circle while picking his shots which he does very effectively. Against Castillo, he traded most of the time.

                    And that being said, I'm not expecting DLH to chase PBF and open himself up against PBF's snipping.

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                    • shawn_
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                      #20

                      Everbody gets hit. Floyd is no exception. Floyd just manages to avoid getting hit more than most people do. Human anatomy dictates that inorder to throw a punch, you must extend your arm, and thus create an opening. Floyd is not exempt. He has to create an opening to throw a punch.

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