Is Pbf Too Good for His Own Good?

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  • realheavyhands
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    #31
    If floyd dont fight somebody he will always question his own greatness.. In he end he'll be the one that looses out. How good could he really have been he will ask him self... For him to retire now his knees must be starting to bother him.. becuase his style isnt natural

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    • OptimusWolf
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      #32
      I think there is definitely an element of truth in the statement that PBF is too dominant for his own good. I mean he's only had one fight which has really challenged him and he's fought good fighters at 130, 135, and 147. His fighting skills are really something to behold and he's a potential all time top 10 p4p candidate when he hangs them up.

      That said, he hasn't made that many top fights in recent years. I'm not expecting him to fight a p4p opponent every 3 months, but if you're going to be fighting a shot sharmba mitchell, Gatti and Henry Bruseles, then you don't need 5-6 months between fights. There are fights against Hatton, Margarito, Cotto, de la hoya, Tzsyu, Mosley that people want to see and whatever his reasons it is damaging to his legacy.

      On this forum some people do not appreciate how good a boxer he is and don't give him credit even for beating Judah, which I find particularly perplexing since Judah beats quite a few of the above list.

      On the otherhand, lots of PBF fans (usually with his name in their title strangely enough), are not critical enough of his attitude towards making the best fights out there and earning his p4p no.1 status.

      My 3 current faves are Cotto, Wlad and Calzaghe, but I'm not forgiving Calzaghe for fighting Manfredo - that's an awful fight to make, and I'm delighted for Cotto taking on Margarito, with the winner getting into the p4p lists. Floyd is still my current no.1, but if his fight with Oscar is unconvincing and Pac beats Guzman, I'll swap them over without any hesistation.

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      • Ted The Bull
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        #33
        PBF needs to beat ODH and then BIGUP with some tough guys like Hatton, Cotto, Williams, SSM. If he retires without doing this, it will haunt him forever. Baeting some of these guys will be the cement that seals his legacy.

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        • kayjay
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          #34
          Let him beat the best of his contemporaries before you say he's TOO good. De La Hoya, Cotto, etc. have to be handily beaten each in order to justify such praise.

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          • TheEvilSaint
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            #35
            yes, he is. hes so good, that any fight hes in, he makes it look so easy and it puts his opposition into question like "are they even that good?"

            floyd hasnt been tested cuz almost every fight hes been in has been a cakewalk for him. but all that could change in his fight with oscar.

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            • wmute
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              #36
              he is too good for his own good, and also too arrogant for his own good

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              • wmute
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                #37
                Originally posted by kayjay
                Let him beat the best of his contemporaries before you say he's TOO good. De La Hoya, Cotto, etc. have to be handily beaten each in order to justify such praise.
                see... the handily written in your post tells that he is already he is TOO good, if the demand from this fighter is that he beats them easy, while with all other fighters, fans are happy with beating, easy or hard.

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                • -Antonio-
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                  #38
                  In almost all of his fights that seems to be the case. The fights arent really competitive so a lot of fans get bored by it. It would be nice if Floyd let loose more. For example, in the Gatti fight he was throwing some sick combinations. He looked like he wanted to make a statement. Where as in the Baldomir fight, he boxed beautifully, but he was a little too cautious. Maybe its because of his hand problems combined with the fact that Baldomir couldnt be knocked out by a baseball bat. Still he could have pressed the action a bit more, just to put on a show. Sometimes when you are the face of boxing its your job to not only win but put on a show.

                  At this stage in his career where he is surrounded by game opponents I dont think it will be the case. I cant wait for Floyd to face either Cotto or Hatton. Regardless of what anybody thinks, those fights will be competitive. No more 120-108 for Floyd. The fight with Oscar might just be competitive too, if the Golden Boy can turn back the clock.

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                  • cortdawg25
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by realheavyhands
                    he does need to fight somebody tho. hes never fought another A opponent..NEVER
                    Who are these A opponent's near his weight?

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                    • cortdawg25
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Ted The Bull
                      PBF needs to beat ODH and then BIGUP with some tough guys like Hatton, Cotto, Williams, SSM. If he retires without doing this, it will haunt him forever. Baeting some of these guys will be the cement that seals his legacy.
                      Only thing with that is that Hatton has got to get into the ring. And to be honest, I don't think Hatton belongs anywhere near him, let alone in the ring together. Cotto might just fight him at 147, but he never was going there at 140. Margarito is like Hatton, belongs nowhere near Floyd in my opinion. Those 2 are clearly 120-108 fights for him..but SSM fight I got to see.

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