Is Frazier Overrated?

**Verstyle** · 01-17-2007, 04:42 PM

Originally posted by !! Mr. Soprano

I don't understand why this guy is always in the top 10 HW of all time...
His style does not impress me... He is winning of his one time glory win over Ali..

He was sure a top fighter, but GOAT?! I don't understand...

His record is 32 - 4 - 1

That's like saying Rahman is a GOAT because he KOed Lewis

i heardly see him in ne1s to 10 EVER!

**brownpimp88** · 01-17-2007, 04:43 PM

he's usually ranked about 9 or 10, he was a world champ for 5 years during the division's deepest time period. He could have easily fought in a weaker era, but he chose not to be a big fish in a small pond.

**Kid Achilles** · 01-17-2007, 04:44 PM

He's underrated if anything. He's greater than Foreman in head to head matchups as far as I'm concerned. Foreman showed weakness vs. Lyle (it really developed into a pick 'em fight) and showed an inability to deal with boxers with good lateral movement and decently fast hands who wouldn't freeze up in front of him. If anything ,Foreman is overrated here and Frazier is underrated. My opinion.

**Kid Achilles** · 01-17-2007, 04:46 PM

he's usually ranked about 9 or 10, he was a world champ for 5 years during the division's deepest time period. He could have easily fought in a weaker era, but he chose not to be a big fish in a small pond.

Are you for real? You are insinuating that Frazier chose when he would be born. That's some wacky **** there.

**brownpimp88** · 01-17-2007, 04:48 PM

Frazier had a better title run than tunney, dempsey, johnson and marciano. He is underrated cuz he didnt win the trilogy against ali. At least he beat the top 175er of his era, something dempsey couldnt do. Jack Johnson was droppped by a guy that weighs 160 pounds, imagine frazier applying pressure on his weak chin.

**!! Mr. Soprano** · 01-17-2007, 04:50 PM

Originally posted by Kid Achilles

He's underrated if anything. He's greater than Foreman in head to head matchups as far as I'm concerned. Foreman showed weakness vs. Lyle (it really developed into a pick 'em fight) and showed an inability to deal with boxers with good lateral movement and decently fast hands who wouldn't freeze up in front of him. If anything ,Foreman is overrated here and Frazier is underrated. My opinion.

Is that why he was KOed by Foreman twice?
How can he be greater than the man who beat him twice?

You never see DLH rated higher than Tito...

**!! Mr. Soprano** · 01-17-2007, 04:55 PM

Originally posted by brownpimp88

he's usually ranked about 9 or 10, he was a world champ for 5 years during the division's deepest time period. He could have easily fought in a weaker era, but he chose not to be a big fish in a small pond.

Unless I'm reading it wrong, he was a champ for a little less than 2 years..
And defended his title only 4 times

**Hydro** · 01-17-2007, 04:57 PM

Originally posted by !! Mr. Soprano

Unless I'm reading it wrong, he was a champ for a little less than 2 years..
And defended his title only 4 times

depends which title you are looking at.

**!! Mr. Soprano** · 01-17-2007, 05:01 PM

Originally posted by Hydro

depends which title you are looking at.

Should I be looking at NYSAC?

Is Frazier Overrated?