DLH is a true warrior

[Dr Cynical]

1) If you heard DLH grunt immediately after he got. If so, whether you think he faked it or not

2) If you saw DLH immediately drop his arm to the area Hopkins hit him, leaving his head wide open. If so, explain why he would do that if the punch didn't hurt.

The identical punch he hurt Allen with happened at 1:05 remaining in the 9th round in their fight. If you have a copy, check it out.

Ok I checked it out again.
From one angle it looked like it was blocked.
I didn't see the other angle where it showed that it wasn't.
It still looked like a weak punch and I did not hear Oscar grunt and I saw him kinda move his arm.

As I stated before, there was no reason for him to go down and stay down from that shot.

[m00ks]

Ok I checked it out again.
From one angle it looked like it was blocked.
I didn't see the other angle where it showed that it wasn't.
It still looked like a weak punch and I did not hear Oscar grunt and I saw him kinda move his arm.

As I stated before, there was no reason for him to go down and stay down from that shot.

Man how would you know you weren't on the recieving end of that shot. I guess YOU would have stood up to it right

Whether the punch looked impressive or not it, it shouldn't matter. I trully doubt that Oscar took a dive. The guy's been down before in the past and still got up...just not from this one.

[Dr Cynical]

Man how would you know you weren't on the recieving end of that shot. I guess YOU would have stood up to it right

Whether the punch looked impressive or not it, it shouldn't matter. I trully doubt that Oscar took a dive. The guy's been down before in the past and still got up...just not from this one.

Atman said a similiar thing.
I'm not a professional boxer, Oscar is.
That slap/"punch" should not have taken out Oscar.

[Atman]

Ok I checked it out again.
From one angle it looked like it was blocked.
I didn't see the other angle where it showed that it wasn't.
It still looked like a weak punch and I did not hear Oscar grunt and I saw him kinda move his arm.

As I stated before, there was no reason for him to go down and stay down from that shot.

We're getting somewhere. Now explain what exactly made the punch 'weak'.

[Dr Cynical]

We're getting somewhere. Now explain what exactly made the punch 'weak'.

Everyone was saying that the punch was hard and perfect and accurate.
It didn't look hard, it wasn't impressive, and it looked more like a normal body punch that landed somewhere Hopkins' didn't expect it to.

[Atman]

So it was a 'normal' body punch that Oscar didn't see and landed in the perfect spot, no?

[Yarmez]

Dela Hoya, didn't have to take this fight, but did, he is a warrior, if he won, he would go down as a lgend, if he lost he would become just another victim of Bernard.

But hey, I have repect for delahoya he gave it a go.

[FrankJack]

No, I'm pretty sure that Hopkins was expecting to land that punch so I don't think this has any merit to turn into a "lucky punch" accusation. DLH was fixated on blocking that first punch and blocked his own vision leaving him open for the second. It seemed to me like Hopkins knew where he wanted that punch to land. And in terms of looking impressive, I've seen Foreman throw some knockout punches that looked weak as hell and still floor people.

I don't understand why this is even being debated. The man was getting overpowered and he didn't even have the power to hurt Hopkins. The man's rich, he has his own promotion business, he acts, he does a little bit of singing, he has a show, he's one of the most marketable men in America. WHAT could Hopkins, his camp, or HBO offer him to take a dive that would overshadow his name being in the books as one of the best that's done it? I really can't think of anything but maybe one of know something I don't, and I'm not bein sarcastic or nothin so don't take it that way. I just can't see why this is even debateable....

[Winter]

Oscar De La Hoya is great. He is a warrior.

[m00ks]

No, I'm pretty sure that Hopkins was expecting to land that punch so I don't think this has any merit to turn into a "lucky punch" accusation. DLH was fixated on blocking that first punch and blocked his own vision leaving him open for the second. It seemed to me like Hopkins knew where he wanted that punch to land. And in terms of looking impressive, I've seen Foreman throw some knockout punches that looked weak as hell and still floor people.

I don't understand why this is even being debated. The man was getting overpowered and he didn't even have the power to hurt Hopkins. The man's rich, he has his own promotion business, he acts, he does a little bit of singing, he has a show, he's one of the most marketable men in America. WHAT could Hopkins, his camp, or HBO offer him to take a dive that would overshadow his name being in the books as one of the best that's done it? I really can't think of anything but maybe one of know something I don't, and I'm not bein sarcastic or nothin so don't take it that way. I just can't see why this is even debateable....

I think you nailed it riiight there. No motive.