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  • scap
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    #11
    Most predict Calzaghe would outclass Taylor...what does that say about Hopkins?


    Dont give me the "styles make fights" cliche either.

    Why couldnt Bernard handle the super likable amatuer Jermain Taylor?

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    • Tuggers1986
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      #12
      Originally posted by Floydko1
      Big fan off taylor but if he goes in their with calzaghe like he did vs Ouma he gonna get SMASHED all ova the ring ive seen alot off calzaghes bouts from eubanks to lacys the mans jst pure class he speed is awesome and he stop give his oponents a second the breath. Calzaghe would take out any divsion middleweight division (winky,taylor,light heavy (adamek,woods,hopkins)if he wanted to

      I agree, anyone who says Taylor or Hopkins Would Beat Calzaghe doesn't know what thier talking about. It just pisses me off that hes fighting Manfredo instead of Taylor/Hopkins/Winky and proving how great he actually is.

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      • Kid Achilles
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        #13
        Why couldnt Bernard handle the super likable amatuer Jermain Taylor?
        Hopkins wins his fights at his age because of his skill and experience. He is not as quick as Calzaghe, nor does he have the punching power. Calzaghe blows a 40 year old Hopkins away in terms of natural talent.

        Also "Styles makes fights" may be a cliche but it's also a reality. Calzaghe's superior handspeed, movement, and punching power means he's a completely different opponent than an old Hopkins.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Shanus
          Do you honestly think Calzaghe would turn down that fight?

          Calzaghe even said Lacy wasn't even on his level before the fight and proposed to 'smash him', he's said in recent interviews that Manfredo isn't on his level and proposed to 'smash him', him saying Taylor isn't on his level isn't an excuse for not wanting to fight, he's a fighter, having an ego is what he's all about.
          That's all true, but then why fight Manfredo and not Taylor? If Taylor is a big payday then why not take that instead of a Reality television star (No offense to Peter, again). Like I said earlier, I cant comment on Joe much since I havent seen any fights other than Lacy, but based on what I've HEARD, he'd probably do something similar to Taylor. So if all things being equal (he'd clean the ring floor with Manfredo OR Taylor), wouldnt it be sensible to take the Taylor fight?
          UNLESS, there is more of a risk, which then contradicts what he said about Taylors skills to begin with.
          I think what you are trying to tell me is that the proposed fight isnt even true? If that's the case, then why would he even bring it up (more than once)? If he comes out and says 'They (Taylor's camp) havent even proposed a fight', then I'd agree with you and shut up. But he's been saying things like this, which, TO ME, sounds like they want to get a fight going and he is picking an easy safe opponent.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Phantasm
            That's all true, but then why fight Manfredo and not Taylor? If Taylor is a big payday then why not take that instead of a Reality television star (No offense to Peter, again). Like I said earlier, I cant comment on Joe much since I havent seen any fights other than Lacy, but based on what I've HEARD, he'd probably do something similar to Taylor. So if all things being equal (he'd clean the ring floor with Manfredo OR Taylor), wouldnt it be sensible to take the Taylor fight?
            UNLESS, there is more of a risk, which then contradicts what he said about Taylors skills to begin with.
            I think what you are trying to tell me is that the proposed fight isnt even true? If that's the case, then why would he even bring it up (more than once)? If he comes out and says 'They (Taylor's camp) havent even proposed a fight', then I'd agree with you and shut up. But he's been saying things like this, which, TO ME, sounds like they want to get a fight going and he is picking an easy safe opponent.

            Here's a little bit of information for you, as to why there's a purpose for this fight other than a prep' for JT. (If that's still going to happen, I've heard rumours of JT fighting Mora later on in the year instead of Calzaghe anyway).

            Calzaghe-Manfredo is going to be the biggest live gate EVER to be televised on HBO.

            There's going to be an estimated 40,000 fans in that stadium, with 120,000 seats in total.. I don't care if it's Manfredo or not, that's astonishing.

            But I can't answer your question, as far as I know the ball is in Taylors court, Taylor's proposed that he wants to fight the best out there, who better than Calzaghe at SMW?

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              #16
              Originally posted by Shanus
              Here's a little bit of information for you, as to why there's a purpose for this fight other than a prep' for JT. (If that's still going to happen, I've heard rumours of JT fighting Mora later on in the year instead of Calzaghe anyway).

              Calzaghe-Manfredo is going to be the biggest live gate EVER to be televised on HBO.

              There's going to be an estimated 40,000 fans in that stadium, with 120,000 seats in total.. I don't care if it's Manfredo or not, that's astonishing.

              But I can't answer your question, as far as I know the ball is in Taylors court, Taylor's proposed that he wants to fight the best out there, who better than Calzaghe at SMW?
              I guess that doesnt surprise me. I know that when the Brits support their fighter they comeout of the woodwork and I commend them for that. It's a throwback to the old days, when boxing was part of the trinity of sports (Boxing, Baseball and Horse Racing). But a live gate is one thing....now imagine the same thing you just said is estimated, but with PPV buys as well.

              Now, I didnt mean to say that he shouldnt fight Manfredo. He's a big enough household name to generate interest in the fight and get the money, but a safe enough opponent that he should beat him plus garner some accolades. And again, I dunno how much of these rumours are true, since I have been hearing them for months now and as you said, there are still rumors of Mora and Wright floating around. As far as I understood, the Wright fight was gonna be his last fight at 160 and was moving up; proves how much 'truth' gets floated out there.
              But the problem I have is what he said about the skill level. I know you said it's about ego and in the past he has backed it up. I just wish guys would be a bit more honest nowadays. Maybe its a ****** thing to get all pissed off about, but if he were to be preparing to fight a guy like Kessler or Wright when he made the comment about Taylor, then I'd be ok with it. I guess it's the fact that he said it as he is preparing to fight a guy of lesser skill than Taylor.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Kid Achilles
                Hopkins wins his fights at his age because of his skill and experience. He is not as quick as Calzaghe, nor does he have the punching power. Calzaghe blows a 40 year old Hopkins away in terms of natural talent.

                Also "Styles makes fights" may be a cliche but it's also a reality. Calzaghe's superior handspeed, movement, and punching power means he's a completely different opponent than an old Hopkins.
                This is the type of response I was looking for Kid!

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Floydko1
                  Big fan off taylor but if he goes in their with calzaghe like he did vs Ouma he gonna get SMASHED all ova the ring ive seen alot off calzaghes bouts from eubanks to lacys the mans jst pure class he speed is awesome and he stop give his oponents a second the breath. calzaghe would take out any divsion middleweight division (winky,taylor,light heavy (adamek,woods,hopkins)if he wanted to
                  A washed up Eubank almost stopped Calzaghe in the last minute of the fight, Robin Reid beat Calzaghe, I guess you've never seen that fight, Robin Reid is the same guy that was dominated by Lacy.

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                    #19
                    I dont know why Joe said Taylo wasnt ready yet for him. Joe shouldnt wait for him to be ready. Joe needs a big win on his CV, whether Taylor is ready or not. He plans to retire soon so he should fight Tylor after Manfredo.

                    And Eubank wasnt washed up against Joe. Eubank was in the shape of his life. He will tell u that. He knew what Joe bought to the table so he was in as good shape as he ever was in his career, but had more experiecne/

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Kid Achilles
                      I would love to see that fight and although I'm not a big fan of Calzaghe, I think he'd outclass Taylor.
                      I completely agree, I'm not a Calzaghe fan but if they were to fight anytime soon Joe would expose Taylors weaknesses and outbox him pretty easily.

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