Tyson Vs "Joe Frazier"

[The Noose]

Prime vs Prime?

Frazier.

Tyson would win the early rounds becaue Joe was always a slow starter and Tyson was a fast starter, so that's just logical.

Here is where it gets interesting, though. Neither man would have been accustomed to fighting a man his own size. Now, while Tyson had more weight on him, that doesn't necessarily mean he would be the stronger fighter because Joe was a better infighter than Mike. Mike was more of a mid-range fighter who had to get set before he released. Joe didn't have to get set, he was always right in your chest and always working.

Tyson, on the other hand, after exploding like a bomb in the first round and throwing huge punches pretty consistantly for the first couple or three rounds began to settle down and fight sporadically. He'd look for an opening and then release a combination, throwing body punches usually in ones and twos while bringing another one or two upstairs; but as soon as he got in a man's chest, he'd fall into a clinch pretty easily, which is something Frazier didn't offer. Frazier would have no interest in resting in a clinch because he built momentum as the fight wore on, while Mike slowed down.

What we've got here are two fighters going in different directions. If Mike doesn't get Joe out of their early, more than likely Joe would wear Mike down and stop him late, sapping Mike's stamina and will to win with consistant pressure and hard body shots and eventually trapping Mike along the ropes or in a corner with Mike not throwing back. Joe won't get a clean knock out over Mike I don't think, though.

Could Mike stop Joe early? Possible; but not probable. Prime Joe was the one who fougth Ali in the first fight, not the Joe who climbed into the ring with Foreman two years and a few pounds later. There is a myth that Joe's chin wasn't that good; but only one man really knocked him out and that was George Foreman. I can see Mike knocking Joe down; but I can also see Mike missing a lot due to Joe's height and head movement. Prime Frazier wasn't that easy to hit at all, unless you were on the inside when he was constatnly hitting you.

Prime Tyson wasn't easy to hit either...from mid-range or long range, which is exactly where Joe would not be fighting from, so it is irrelevant. On the inside, Joe's got the edge....in will to win, Joe's got the edge....and over the long haul, Joe's got the edge. And, in my opinion, Joe wins by mid to later round stoppage.

Id say that is 100% accurate.
I still think Tyson, if he is able to adjust to Fraziers height, and lands some clean short punches early , which he was able to do early on in his career, he could get Joe outa there.
But Joe is probably the favourite here.

And also, for whoever said it...Frazier was NOT a slow puncher. He had good hand speed, and his left hook was IMO a very fast swift shot.

[Abe Attell]

One quick thing, if Tyson is going to knock Frazier out, he is going to have to kill him because Frazier keeps coming and coming, he did this with Big George...

[typeone]

Some great views have been left! And it is true Joe was a slow starter..Tyson at his best did have great power! But to be honest, In alot of Tysons fights he already had won the fight just by pure fear! Now, I no Joe would not be in fear of Tyson that "Nodding Donkey" (As I like to call him, With no disrespect meant) had a damn hard punch himself and I do believe he would do the same as Evander did to Tyson if not better.
Thanks for the reply's

[K-DOGG]

Id say that is 100% accurate.
I still think Tyson, if he is able to adjust to Fraziers height, and lands some clean short punches early , which he was able to do early on in his career, he could get Joe outa there.
But Joe is probably the favourite here.

And also, for whoever said it...Frazier was NOT a slow puncher. He had good hand speed, and his left hook was IMO a very fast swift shot.

....the highest praise one could receive.


Thanks Bobby....and I competely agree with your assessment of Joe's handspeed and in particular the left hook. That hook of Joe's was indeed a thing of beauty.

[Brockton Lip]

When I stated that I see Frazier scoring a KO, I believe its highly possible but I don't think he would knock Mike out cold. Tyson would get frustrated and tired as the fight wore on, he would get knocked down but would not complete get up resulting in a KO loss.

[boxer2k5]

prime tyson 215 218 pounds is bigger
tan prime fraizer at 213 pounds

tyson is also faster and throws better
combinations

fraizer had better footwork but he
gets hit more than prime tyson

good match up both tough both
durable chins

i pick tyson by early tko

if fraizer gets past the 6th i pick him to dig out a decision


foreman destroys a prime tyson though

[realheavyhands]

tyson had trouble with buster mathis for 3 rounds...depends what tyson your talking about... late 80s tyson would beat fraizer... but and after prison tyson who punched even harder would loose becuase frazier threw short punches