Cotto is definitely top 10 p4p now

[!optimusprime!]

nah, its cool man..........I needed a laugh..that was great.

[Mech.]

No offense but your name is from the TRANSFORMERS.

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[oldgringo]

I wouldn't put Cotto in my top ten QUITE yet. There are a lot of fighters in people's lists who haven't been very impressive lately though, and Cotto's last win certainly WAS impressive. He's now an undefeated 2 division champion. He'll be cracking the top ten soon though...bet that.

My list looks like:

Mayweather
Pacquiao
Wright
Marquez
Barrera
Taylor (assuming he beats Ouma on Saturday)
Hopkins (assuming he continues to fight)
Calzaghe
Hatton
Castillo

It baffles me how so many people have Floyd Mayweather at #1, while they neglect to have Rafael Marquez anywhere near their top five. Mayweather is #1 based largely on his work at 130 and 135....stuff that happened 3 years ago. His work at higher weights is hardly enough to rank him over guys like Pacquiao and Wright, who have been beating on some good opponents. Since MArquez beat a couple of really good fighters in HOF flyweight Mark Johnson and bantam Tim Austin, he has knocked out pretty much every top contender to his title. The guys he is beating aren't exactly killers or the cream of the crop, but they certainly aren't much worse than the Sharmba Mitchell's and Arturo Gatti's of the world. Can someone explain this dynamic to moi?

[Mech.]

I wouldn't put Cotto in my top ten QUITE yet. There are a lot of fighters in people's lists who haven't been very impressive lately though, and Cotto's last win certainly WAS impressive. He's now an undefeated 2 division champion. He'll be cracking the top ten soon though...bet that.

My list looks like:

Mayweather
Pacquiao
Wright
Marquez
Barrera
Taylor (assuming he beats Ouma on Saturday)
Hopkins (assuming he continues to fight)
Calzaghe
Hatton
Castillo

It baffles me how so many people have Floyd Mayweather at #1, while they neglect to have Rafael Marquez anywhere near their top five. Mayweather is #1 based largely on his work at 130 and 135....stuff that happened 3 years ago. His work at higher weights is hardly enough to rank him over guys like Pacquiao and Wright, who have been beating on some good opponents. Since MArquez beat a couple of really good fighters in HOF flyweight Mark Johnson and bantam Tim Austin, he has knocked out pretty much every top contender to his title. The guys he is beating aren't exactly killers or the cream of the crop, but they certainly aren't much worse than the Sharmba Mitchell's and Arturo Gatti's of the world. Can someone explain this dynamic to moi?

Yeah, I'll explain it: Shut up.

I think people stop paying attention at featherweight.

[Kball15]

do you not think a former middleweight who is 40 years old and fat as **** that can beat pretty much all the heavyweights is not p4p material? how long have you been watching boxing?

DEFINETLY not P4P top 10!!!!

He just lost to PETER, and if Peter lost to klitschko and klitschko AND peter arent on it, why the hell would TONEY be on it????

I definetly didnt agree with the decision, i thought it was the worst of the year, but i definetly go with what REALLY happened when considering P4P status

There is no way i would have JAMES TONEY anywhere near my top 10, or even my top 20, P4p list...

[oldgringo]

Yeah, I'll explain it: Shut up.

I think people stop paying attention at featherweight.

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[Run]

do you not think a former middleweight who is 40 years old and fat as **** that can beat pretty much all the heavyweights is not p4p material? how long have you been watching boxing?

How many times does it have to be reiterated to you?

Heavyweights aren't considered for these lists because they are the supreme weight. It doesn't matter what weight Toney fought at, he's now a heavyweight. End of story and it's getting really old.



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[IwatchBoxing]

Heaveyweights should be pound for pound, I've had Toney top three on mine for more than a year. Its twisted to see a Featherweights being "p4p" and they can't get on...Cotto gonna make huge noise next year, so I'm not worried about putting him on a pound for pound list, I just sit back and wait cause anyway hes gonna really earn a spot in a few months in my opinion. Also, Quintana wasn't proven, he has to do THAT to somebody proven. Beating Quintana is nice but lets see him do that to somebody on the cailber of Mayweather, Hatton, Margarito. Blowing a no name fighter in 5, dont see how that will prepare him to box and win a fight with Mayweather..

[scap]

Heaveyweights should be pound for pound, I've had Toney top three on mine for more than a year. Its twisted to see a Featherweights being "p4p" and they can't get on...Cotto gonna make huge noise next year, so I'm not worried about putting him on a pound for pound list, I just sit back and wait cause anyway hes gonna really earn a spot in a few months in my opinion. Also, Quintana wasn't proven, he has to do THAT to somebody proven. Beating Quintana is nice but lets see him do that to somebody on the cailber of Mayweather, Hatton, Margarito. Blowing a no name fighter in 5, dont see how that will prepare him to box and win a fight with Mayweather..

Talk about growing as a poster...

Quite objective, I like it!

Boxing fans sit back and hold on, Mr. Cotto will provide some of the decades best wars, win or lose love or hate the word RESPECT is one that will ring loud and clear with this warrior when it is all said and done.

[miron_lang]

1. Mayweather
2. Calzaghe
3. Hatton
4. Pacquaio
5. Barrera
6. Cotto
7. Taylor
8. De La Hoya
9. Toney
10. Castillo


That's based on ability, which it always used to be (until this 'opposition obsession').

ABility? how can your prove you ability if you dont face dangerous opponents?

OMG CALZ and Hatton @ 2 and 3 ????


1. Mayweather
2. Pac
3. Wright
4. R. Marquez
5. Arce
6. Hatton
7. Taylor
8. Hopkins
9. Calz
10. Castillo