pacman clearly ducking marquez link inside

[Castillofan]

championships dont mean revenues. if **** dont sell then it wont belt or no belt. what year are you living in?

You don't even know what you're talking about, my friend. Yes, the draw can get a sizable cut. That's not the issue here. MARQUEZ didn't see why he should get less and chose not to go with the fight for that money.

That's it.

This isn't what you think is right or wrong. It is what happened regardless.

[flipside]

Alright man. I can see trying to explain this is a waste of time. You obviously cannot see, despite it being shown to you, why that situation came to pass.

End of story.

what i cant see? you have your opinions cant i have opinions? you made your points i made mine.

[Castillofan]

ahahahahaha.

Like you can say you have that choice?

Laugh that off.

[BIGPOPPAPUMP]

admit it mang!

marquez priced himself out of the rematch coz he's afraid of PACMAN...
if he gets KTFO, thats it! its goodbye for him! marquez is only protecting himself for an early retirement and besides boxing is only his means of livelihood and cant afford to go on fishing everyday...

and why should he receive the bigger slice of the pie? he got KDed 3x!!!
he got lucky that dubious ref cortez didnt waive him off during the 3rd knock down...

A lot of people thought Marquez won the fight with Pacquiao, regardless of the three knockdowns.

I would have to think hard, but I don't ever remember a fighter being floored three times in the first round, and then fighting all the way to the end.

99.9% of the time, when a fighter is dropped three times in round one, he gets knocked out before the final bell. And Marquez did not run in the fight or try to stay away, he stood there and fought because he doesnt have the legs to stay away from Pacquiao, who is quick on his feet.

Marquez wanting more money had nothing to do with being scared, it's called GREED. He was greedy and it cost him.

It's easy for anyone to say "you wont accept this amount of money to fight me so you must be scared"

And while we are on that subject, you don't even know the facts of the story, because Top Rank, who promoted Marquez at the time, was getting more money than Marquez for the fight. I think a fighter has every right to turn down a fight regardless of the money, when his promoter is making MORE than him.

Isnt that the reason why Pacquiao left Murad and Shaw? Because they were making fortunes off of his fights while he was making less in the end.

[Castillofan]

what i cant see? you have your opinions cant i have opinions? you made your points i made mine.

It's not a question of opinion.

It's what happened. Plain and simple as that.

It's not a matter of what I think or you think. That was what was proposed to Marquez, he refused it and chose another way to go.

[flipside]

You don't even know what you're talking about, my friend. Yes, the draw can get a sizable cut. That's not the issue here. MARQUEZ didn't see why he should get less and chose not to go with the fight for that money.

That's it.

This isn't what you think is right or wrong. It is what happened regardless.

boxing is business. marquez dont sell. pac was the draw.

[Castillofan]

A lot of people thought Marquez won the fight with Pacquiao, regardless of the three knockdowns.

I would have to think hard, but I don't ever remember a fighter being floored three times in the first round, and then fighting all the way to the end.

99.9% of the time, when a fighter is dropped three times in round one, he gets knocked out before the final bell. And Marquez did not run in the fight or try to stay away, he stood there and fought because he doesnt have the legs to stay away from Pacquiao, who is quick on his feet.

Marquez wanting more money had nothing to do with being scared, it's called GREED. He was greedy and it cost him.

It's easy for anyone to say "you wont accept this amount of money to fight me so you must be scared"

And while we are on that subject, you don't even know the facts of the story, because Top Rank, who promoted Marquez at the time, was getting more money than Marquez for the fight. I think a fighter has every right to turn down a fight regardless of the money, when his promoter is making MORE than him.

Isnt that the reason why Pacquiao left Murad and Shaw? Because they were making fortunes off of his fights while he was making less in the end.

Good points.

I wouldn't call it greed when as you say, the fighter has a greater right to decide what they will and won't accept.

It was a bull**** split when it came down to the negotiations. People just see the discrepancy between what Marquez would have earned, and ended up earning, but that's not the point.

[flipside]

It's not a question of opinion.

It's what happened. Plain and simple as that.

It's not a matter of what I think or you think. That was what was proposed to Marquez, he refused it and chose another way to go.

my point was marquez had problems with HIS management. he could have taken that fight won and switched management. im sure after if he beat pac he would be getting bigger paydays.

[BIGPOPPAPUMP]

boxing is business. marquez dont sell. pac was the draw.

He wanted more money than what he was being offered by Top Rank, not necesarily more than Pacquiao. Top Rank was going to make more money than both fighters combined for that fight if I remember. Shouldnt the fighter ask his promoter why am I getting paid this, and you are getting paid that, and I'm the one fighting.

Same reason why Mayorga almost backed out of his fight with De La Hoya, when he found out King was getting 5 million for producing him for the fight, and he was get either 1 or 2 mill.

[Castillofan]

boxing is business. marquez dont sell. pac was the draw.

That's right. Pacquiao has the right to turn the Marquez fight down if he chooses. I wouldn't blame him if he did. But as you say, it's a business, and the way I see it, a Marquez rematch is better business for Pacquiao than it is to fight Barrera.