Pac/Floyd investigation, documented punches (disputed rounds) blow by blow

[ADP02]

You didn't answer the questions.


1. What is the threshold for the BAP?

2. Is the BAP in the WADA TD2014EPO document?

Simple questions...that you can't answer. It's over. Stop writing to me.

1. You cannot read? Dr Catlin stated that the BAP threshold used currently was 80%. I made it bigger for you so you can read it.





As per Dr Catlin testimony, at the time the WADA approved LAB was testing with a criteria of 80% which was the IOC/WADA set threshold (not harmonized though) but there was new information such as the upcoming WADA document that would take into affect the following year. Dr Catlin was trying to convince that the new criteria should be accepted as well as the currently accepted BAP threshold criteria! BAP threshold criteria was accepted in the previous CAS cases and had precedence BUT Dr Catlin said they can go lower based on new evidence.

"In fact, the technology present at the UCLA LAB is so advanced that Dr Catlin testifies that the threshold could be even lower than the current 80% without risking a false-positive."

The CAS panel accepted other criteria since, as I said, it would come into affect anyways ..... and the UCI rules state that they can use any means as long as they are sound. So as the panel said, those criteria are just as reliable as the BAP criteria.




2. You tell me. yes or No?
If you ask me, the same exact criteria is not in the document but that is not what we are discussing DEFLECTOR!!!!


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[travestyny]

You cannot be that dumb.


I discovered that they were all "friends" after the fact. That changes everything!
Mayweather Mafia groupie too boot!

DQ right there BABY!!!! Sorry!!!


OK, how about we go to the thunderdome and we have Spoonie (no relations to Spoon23 - wink, wink and not even my friend) be the judge and his friends are also judges.

You would be OK with that? Is your answer YES?

You wish you could disqualify me just like you wish Pac could disqualify Mayweather.

1. Did you approve the judges?

2. Did you say that only the judges' opinions matter?


Let's watch you deflect.

[Spoon23]

Billeau2 and Zaroku are friends with a lot of people. But they are not Floyd fans so the "Mayweather Mafia" is irrelevant.

You are grasping at straws just because they voted against you.

I think it's a matter of honor and being a good sport at this point. You should pay your bet.

look at this phaggot poking his nose again on a topic he knows nothing about it. he's always trying to help out either his boyfriends or another phaggot just like him.

by the way idiot how about defending yourself on the thread that i made for you. you have a lot of shit to explain, 35 members voted for you and i got only 2 votes.

defend yourself phaggot on the thread i made for you. stop helping travestny (aka loser coward phaggot for putting me on her ignore list) 'cause she's born a loser.

anyways, if the poll's either public or private the result will be the same, idiot.

lololololol Kuyukut just called you a phaggot. What you gonna do about it ShoulderRoll aka ****on??

ShoulderRoll (Sh|ts on Brits) exposed again hahaha!!

Pointing fingers at ADP02 when it's actually him who has a backlog of flaking hahaha!!

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[travestyny]

1. You cannot read? Dr Catlin stated that the BAP threshold used currently was 80%. I made it bigger for you so you can read it.





As per Dr Catlin testimony, at the time the WADA approved LAB was testing with a criteria of 80% which was the IOC/WADA set threshold (not harmonized though) but there was new information such as the upcoming WADA document that would take into affect the following year. Dr Catlin was trying to convince that the new criteria should be accepted as well as the currently accepted BAP threshold criteria! BAP threshold criteria was accepted in the previous CAS cases and had precedence BUT Dr Catlin said they can go lower based on new evidence.




The CAS panel accepted other criteria since, as I said, it would come into affect anyways ..... and the UCI rules state that they can use any means as long as they are sound. So as the panel said, those criteria are just as reliable as the BAP criteria.




2. You tell me. yes or No?
If you ask me, the same exact criteria is not in the document but that is not what we are discussing DEFLECTOR!!!!


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Even lower? Then what was it? Why won't you answer the question?

1. What was the threshold for the BAP?

2. YOU AGREE THAT IT IS NOT IN THE DOCUMENT...and then say WE ARE NOT DISCUSSING THAT???? AFTER YOU WRITING SO MUCH ABOUT THE BAP????? SO WHY DO YOU KEEP DISCUSSING IT IF IT'S NOT EVEN IN THE DOCUMENT?

GAME OVER!

SO LET ME GET THIS STRAIGHT. YOU SAY I'M WRONG BECAUSE THE WADA EXPERTS SAY THE BAP IS A THRESHOLD CRITERIA ACCORDING TO YOU....BUT THE BAP IS NOT EVEN RELEVANT BECAUSE ACCORDING TO YOU IT DOESN'T EVEN EXIST IN THE RELEVANT TESTING DOCUMENT. RIGHT? LMAO!

R.I.P.

[Kuyukut]

Make a public poll next time, let's see who is really voting. Maybe then I will care.

We all know that you have a circle jerk going on in the Pinoy Lounge where you artificially increase each other's green K. I'm sure you go in there and beg them to help out against me by voting in your bullshit polls too.

your post right here just shows how dumb and ****** a phaggot you are. how can anybody's reps increases like mine when you're just exchanging reps with newbies with a rep no higher than 60.

my rep went up significantly from the threads i made for you. lots of them enjoy the pwnage i'd given you. i don't know but i think lots of people here doesn't like your copy and paste posting style!

[Kuyukut]

lololololol Kuyukut just called you a phaggot. What you gonna do about it ShoulderRoll aka ****on??

ShoulderRoll (Sh|ts on Brits) exposed again hahaha!!

Pointing fingers at ADP02 when it's actually him who has a backlog of flaking hahaha!!

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be careful with shoulderphaggot aka shits on brits he has a major issue with nasophilia. he has fantasies and loves boning guys in the nose.

he's a weird guy...!

[ADP02]

THIS IS THE LAST TIME I SMASH THROUGH YOUR INFORMATION, POINT FOR POINT, MR. DEFLECTING PIECE OF SHlT. THE ONLY THING TO SAY TO ME AFTER THIS IS THAT YOU WANT A REMATCH. IF YOU DON'T HAVE BALLS FOR THAT, DON'T EVEN THINK OF WRITING TO ME.





You're full of shlt. Why won't you answer my question about the threshold for the BAP. I'll tell you why. Because the case said specifically that there is no numerical limit, and then went on to say that it does not represent a threshold. you know...the exact way that you tried to explain a threshold. Now you're moving on to the Athlete biological passport steroidal module. You idiot. that isn't about testing for EPO specifically or anything else specifically. Go look at the document and read about it you moron. It's TD2016EAAS I believe. Read up, fvvck boy. Then realize that you consistently bringing up the ABP doesn't help you f@ggot because this has nothing to do with the ABP except it being one of your deflections. The goddamn document even states that the reasons the markers could be off is due to high alcohol consumption, you idiot. What you are describing is testing for markers of use, you moron. I'm sorry that I have to explain this to you all the time, and apparently Dosumpthin has to explain it to you, too. Threshold substances use thresholds you imbecile. What you are talking about is NOT target testing for the substance, which was the ****ing topic of our discussion you squirming piece of shlt. You know why....BECAUSE THE ABP DOESN'T CHECK FOR EPO. It tests for Markers of use. When you test T/E ratio, you imbecile, it's not considered testing for an anabolic steroid, but checking for markers of it's use, which might be due to something that could even be legit. That you are squirming so hard to try to include the ABP means that you know you lost legit. Give the fvvck up.





NO IT CAN'T YOU DUMB FVVCK. ONCE AGAIN YOU ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT TESTING SPECIFICALLY FOR THE PROHIBITED SUBSTANCE. YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE THINGS THEY USE FOR THE MARKERS OF USE WHICH BECAME THE ABP STEROIDAL MODULE, YOU IMBECILE. ONE DEFLECTION AFTER ANOTHER. GIVE THE FUVVCK UP. YOU OBVIOUSLY DON'T UNDERSTAND THIS.




Your rambling is incoherent. I laughed at you for bringing up the ABP and still do. Your simple simon ass thinks that I laugh at you because I'm deflecting, because that's how your brain works. I laugh at you because you're an imbecile and it delights me that you want to DEFLECT to the ABP. I've dared you to request the rematch because I know you don't believe what you say and if you did, you'd get smashed again easily. You know it and I know it. You got nothing and it's boring always beating the shlt out of you. I just DEMOLISHED you about the BAP, and now you're going on to more ABP. That's your last stand, and it's pitiful. Too bad, bltch.







LMAOOOO. And just like I said, all of that bullshlt about the ABP. LMAOOOOOOOOO.


That's check mate, as it's been for a year. Now anytime you want to respond to me, just read the above carefully. Thanks.

Ps. It's over bltch.


Oh, and since I know you will duck it, here's a little excerpt so you can see for yourself:

STEROIDAL PROFILE.


You're welcome bltch. LMAO!

Sorry but YOU continue to be WRONG!

The CAS said that non-Threshold substances can have threshold tests!!!



WADA states in several documents that it uses the ABP test for EPO to complement the other EPO tests.



If you recall, when you asked for an example of EPO threshold, I mentioned that there was a blood test using hematocrit threshold and provided some examples. You stated that was not a recent article bla bla bla so it doesn't count.

Well, that is still being tested today by WADA :

2.1 Haematological Markers

The following Markers are considered within the ABP Haematological Module:
HCT: Haematocrit
HGB: Haemoglobin
RBC: Red blood cell (erythrocyte) count RET%: Reticulocytes percentage
RET#: Reticulocyte count MCV: Mean corpuscular volume
MCH: Mean corpuscular haemoglobin
MCHC: Mean corpuscular haemoglobin concentration RDW-SD: Red cell distribution width (standard deviation)
IRF: Immature reticulocyte fraction

Further calculated Markers specific to the Haematological Module include OFF-hr Score (OFFS), which is a combination of HGB and RET%1, and Abnormal Blood Profile Score (ABPS), which is a combination of HCT, HGB, RBC, RET%, MCV, MCH, and MCHC2.

Is the above recent enough for you? YOU BET!!!!


KABADABOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!




and lets not forget:

WADA EPO EXPERTS called you TRAVESYTNY as being WRONG!!!




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[travestyny]

Sorry but YOU continue to be WRONG!

The CAS said that non-Threshold substances can have threshold tests!!!



WADA states in several documents that it uses the ABP test for EPO to complement the other EPO tests.



If you recall, when you asked for an example of EPO threshold, I mentioned that there was a blood test using hematocrit threshold and provided some examples. You stated that was not a recent article bla bla bla so it doesn't count.

Well, that is still being tested today by WADA :




Is the above recent enough for you? YOU BET!!!!


KABADABOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!




and lets not forget:

WADA EPO EXPERTS called you TRAVESYTNY as being WRONG!!!




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NOW YOU'RE OFF THE BAP AGAIN AND ON THIS AGAIN.



I already explained it to you. STEROIDAL MODULE and HAEMATOLOGICAL MODULE of the ABP.


Give up

[ShoulderRoll]

Look, Travestyny was DQd by me!!!!

He cannot accept it. No problem. It is what it is!


They were all friends and they didn't give related explanations except for Billeau2 ... but as I stated, his explanation was based on incorrect WADA quotes from travestyny and even though Billeau asked me for a rebuttal, he didn't come back when I was around.

That thread had no ref, no judge who controlled the discussion. Every time I shot down his points, he would say, that was not the topic and there was nobody to bring the topic back to what we agreed to! Sure, whatever!

I told Willy Wanker to hold off before he responds. He didn't. That in itself DQs him as a judge!.

Early on, Tony Mantana was great to have since he was at least coming by to entertain but being honest, his input based on the topic was a big zero.


You guys had to come out clean from the start. That didn't happen until I discovered the truth!!!!


Consequently, Travestyny was DQd!!!!



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You had a say in who was accepted as a judge, you agreed on the final judges, and you agreed to abide by their verdict.

You can't DQ them just because things didn't go your way. Especially not for a silly excuse like "Mayweather Mafia" since the majority of the judges aren't even Floyd fans.

your post right here just shows how dumb and ****** a phaggot you are. how can anybody's reps increases like mine when you're just exchanging reps with newbies with a rep no higher than 60.

my rep went up significantly from the threads i made for you. lots of them enjoy the pwnage i'd given you. i don't know but i think lots of people here doesn't like your copy and paste posting style!

So why don't you make your polls public, then? What do you have to hide?

Your are obviously afraid of transparency for a reason.

[travestyny]

2.1 Haematological Markers

The following Markers are considered within the ABP Haematological Module:
HCT: Haematocrit
HGB: Haemoglobin
RBC: Red blood cell (erythrocyte) count RET%: Reticulocytes percentage
RET#: Reticulocyte count MCV: Mean corpuscular volume
MCH: Mean corpuscular haemoglobin
MCHC: Mean corpuscular haemoglobin concentration RDW-SD: Red cell distribution width (standard deviation)
IRF: Immature reticulocyte fraction

Further calculated Markers specific to the Haematological Module include OFF-hr Score (OFFS), which is a combination of HGB and RET%1, and Abnormal Blood Profile Score (ABPS), which is a combination of HCT, HGB, RBC, RET%, MCV, MCH, and MCHC2.
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Stop it. It's over.

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