Pac/Floyd investigation, documented punches (disputed rounds) blow by blow

[travestyny]

Do you still want to do this? The information hasn't changed.

What we agreed to is this:
Does EPO testing have threshold type criteria?

A threshold meaning that below is human and above is rEPO, right? Direct contradiction coming up!

The Court of Arbitration for Sport

The fact is that the BAP and the other interpretative criteria are used to declare not a threshold of human body production but rather an image from the electropherogram as indicating the presence of non-human EPO.

YOU'RE SAYING THAT THE CRITERIA REPRESENT A THRESHOLD FOR HUMAN BODY PRODUCTION. THE COURT IS CLEARLY SAYING YOU ARE WRONG. GET OVER IT!

[travestyny]

I went back and searched for the original thread.

Willy Wanker was one of the other judges, he said he's been riding with Pacquiao since 2001 and that he gave an honest effort to judge with no bias or favoritism.

Another of the judges was Zaroku who is also no big Floyd fan.

They and billeau2 all voted against you. The proper thing at that point was to pay up on the bet and give travestyny his e-points.

But you still haven't done that to this day. It's been over a year now.

In ADP's own words.

We BOTH thought that we were right.
I KNEW THAT.

BUT it's NOT in our control. Its in the control of the judges, right? So it really doesn't matter what you or I think.

He changes his mind a lot to fit his agendas.

[ADP02]

You have a hard time following directions, don't you?


1. Either answer all of my questions that you keep ducking...

or...

2. Beg for that rematch.


Otherwise, we are done here. You were proven wrong numerous times, and I even took the time out to prove you wrong again. You are stuck in a loop of despair and you don't want to accept your loss. You lost. The information was CLEAR. Because you can't see that, that's ok. You just don't want to see it. For example....


Explain this:

1. You couldn't fess up that you specifically called EPO a threshold substance, didn't you?

2. You couldn't admit that you refused to answer when I proved you wrong that EPO was a threshold substance, I asked you a billion times, you deflected every one, I challenged you to it in the dome, then you said, "Oh, what was the topic?"

and for the sake of not wanting to waste any more time on this, I'll stop at...

3. You won't explain this:







I've explained this to you a billion times. The court said specifically the criteria do not represent a threshold. It is not about any threshold. It is an IMAGE that is revealed. The bands represent an image and the bands are where they are because that is WHAT they are. Not because the bands were at some lower level and then raised to some higher level and exceeded a threshold. IT'S AN IMAGE OF WHAT THEY ARE AND THAT'S IT.

It's over, son. Just as it was over a year ago. Clear information that directly contradicts your statement.

YOU ARE WRONG AND IT'S OVER. YOU LOST 4-0. THE INFORMATION IS ALL STILL HERE FOR EVERYONE TO SEE. YOU ARE AFRAID OF A REMATCH BECAUSE YOU KNOW IT WOULD END THE SAME WAY. THERE IS NOTHING LEFT TO SAY. BOW DOWN, BlTCH AND LET IT GO!

What is WRONG with YOU? I already responded to your questions!!!!


YOU ARE WRONG. YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND!

The WADA EPO EXPERTs who wrote the EPO document call it a THRESHOLD type test.

So of course WADA EPO EXPERTs ARE RIGHT and YOU TRAVESTYNY ARE WRONG!!!!


1. I already stated to you all this a few posts ago and when I responded to Vadrigar that I had said "threshold substances" in a post but I also explained to you that it was about EPO and that there is threshold test! You just like the "Got you game" instead of understanding what I meant.

YOUR ISSUE is that you still are going on with this with EPO threshold test!!!

2. See above response! I said it is not a threshold substance but you cannot get that there is a threshold test.

3. I have answered this question many times. Did you not read the above post??? I keep on telling you that YOU ARE LOST!!!!


Well here it is again! The panel is stating that the criteria is against the image .... RIGHT! BINGO! Not a threshold substance!!!! Read below. Did I say that rEPO is of human origin? Human substance? NO!!!!


Lets just hope that this time, it will be different .... but if you finally understand it, just admit to you being WRONG and we can move on! YIKES!!!



Why? BECAUSE .... YOU are so CONFUSED!!!

One is a test when testing EPO while the other is discussing that it (EPO testing) is NOT a threshold substance!!!!


Without getting into the exceptions,
with the example threshold substance mentioned, this test was on 19-Norandrosterone substance ONLY. There is a substance and for this substance they can deduce that if it is over a threshold the sample collected contains non-human production of this substance, 19-Norandrosterone.

That is why they are saying:

There is no threshold above which it can be said there is non-human production of the substance

So if you are still lost, this means that the test is on a single substance ... That is, above or below the threshold, it is still the SAME SUBSTANCE as far as they could currently deduce as per that test!!!


With EPO, they were verifying the profile of the bands to verify whether or not there is also presence of rEPO substance.

rEPO is NOT the same substance as human EPO!!!!

With the test criteria that they do for EPO they can deduce whether there is also rEPO or possibly just human EPO.

EPO drug when it exceeds or
just human EPO if it does not exceed!

For a test criteria, if the intensity of the bands exceeds the threshold, it means that it is an identification of the presence of rEPO substance. As per the criteria, if it is below the threshold, they cannot state that there is rEPO substance. Hence, they will state as a test result, that there is only human EPO in the urine sample ..... but there are other possible criteria and tests that can differ with that single criteria that I mentioned as an example.

So the athlete and YOU are comparing apples with oranges. EPO testing is a comparison of sorts to identify if there is also rEPO substance or not while the example given and the threshold they spoke of is one and the same substance! Yes, it is that simple but you got all mixed up!

Like I said, you only know threshold substances!!!!


YOU ARE DEFINTELY ABSOLUTELY WRONG TRAVESTYNY.

The WADA EPO EXPERTs and others have called that test a threshold type. YOU ARE WRONG!!!!



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[ADP02]

I went back and searched for the original thread.

Willy Wanker was one of the other judges, he said he's been riding with Pacquiao since 2001 and that he gave an honest effort to judge with no bias or favoritism.

Another of the judges was Zaroku who is also no big Floyd fan.

They and billeau2 all voted against you. The proper thing at that point was to pay up on the bet and give travestyny his e-points.

But you still haven't done that to this day. It's been over a year now.

One of those judges was part of the Mayweather Mafia. The others were his friends! Understand? Shouldn't be too difficult!

I found out about this after the fact.


Furthermore, none of those judges gave adequate related explanations as was part of the deal. This was to show that they were not bias.

Judge 1 just said that he like Travestyny because he posted more .... something like that.


.

[travestyny]

What is WRONG with YOU? I already responded to your questions!!!!


YOU ARE WRONG. YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND!

The WADA EPO EXPERTs who wrote the EPO document call it a THRESHOLD type test.

So of course WADA EPO EXPERTs ARE RIGHT and YOU TRAVESTYNY ARE WRONG!!!!


1. I already stated to you all this a few posts ago and when I responded to Vadrigar that I had said "threshold substances" in a post but I also explained to you that it was about EPO and that there is threshold test! You just like the "Got you game" instead of understanding what I meant.

YOUR ISSUE is that you still are going on with this with EPO threshold test!!!

2. See above response! I said it is not a threshold substance but you cannot get that there is a threshold test.

3. I have answered this question many times. Did you not read the above post??? I keep on telling you that YOU ARE LOST!!!!


Well here it is again! The panel is stating that the criteria is against the image .... RIGHT! BINGO! Not a threshold substance!!!! Read below. Did I say that rEPO is of human origin? Human substance? NO!!!!


Lets just hope that this time, it will be different .... but if you finally understand it, just admit to you being WRONG and we can move on! YIKES!!!



Why? BECAUSE .... YOU are so CONFUSED!!!

One is a test when testing EPO while the other is discussing that it (EPO testing) is NOT a threshold substance!!!!


Without getting into the exceptions,
with the example threshold substance mentioned, this test was on 19-Norandrosterone substance ONLY. There is a substance and for this substance they can deduce that if it is over a threshold the sample collected contains non-human production of this substance, 19-Norandrosterone.

That is why they are saying:


So if you are still lost, this means that the test is on a single substance ... That is, above or below the threshold, it is still the SAME SUBSTANCE as far as they could currently deduce as per that test!!!


With EPO, they were verifying the profile of the bands to verify whether or not there is also presence of rEPO substance.

rEPO is NOT the same substance as human EPO!!!!

With the test criteria that they do for EPO they can deduce whether there is also rEPO or possibly just human EPO.



For a test criteria, if the intensity of the bands exceeds the threshold, it means that it is an identification of the presence of rEPO substance. As per the criteria, if it is below the threshold, they cannot state that there is rEPO substance. Hence, they will state as a test result, that there is only human EPO in the urine sample ..... but there are other possible criteria and tests that can differ with that single criteria that I mentioned as an example.

So the athlete and YOU are comparing apples with oranges. EPO testing is a comparison of sorts to identify if there is also rEPO substance or not while the example given and the threshold they spoke of is one and the same substance! Yes, it is that simple but you got all mixed up!

Like I said, you only know threshold substances!!!!


YOU ARE DEFINTELY ABSOLUTELY WRONG TRAVESTYNY.

The WADA EPO EXPERTs and others have called that test a threshold type. YOU ARE WRONG!!!!



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WRONG. The guy who made the test said it is NOT a threshold.

And the guy you keep bringing up was a part of the court case that said there were NO THRESHOLDS!



Look I'm too busy to listen to you say the same shlt you've been saying for a year.

Do you want a rematch? Yes or no?


Otherwise, shut the fvvck up. It's over.


YOU HAVE SHOWN OVER AND OVER THAT YOU ARE INCAPABLE OF ADMITTING THAT YOU'RE WRONG. THAT WAS THE WHOLE REASON WE ASKED 4 MEMBERS TO SERVE AS JUDGES IN THE MATTER. 4 VOTED AGAINST YOU. NONE VOTED FOR YOU. DO YOU KNOW WHY? BECAUSE YOU ARE WRONG. YOUR WAY OF DEALING WITH THIS, INSTEAD OF ADMITTING THAT YOU ARE WRONG, IS TO SAY THAT THEY CHEATED. STOP CRYING ABOUT IT. IT'S BEEN OVER A YEAR. GIVE THE FVVCK UP!

[travestyny]

One of those judges was part of the Mayweather Mafia. The others were his friends! Understand? Shouldn't be too difficult!

I found out about this after the fact.


Furthermore, none of those judges gave adequate related explanations as was part of the deal. This was to show that they were not bias.

Judge 1 just said that he like Travestyny because he posted more .... something like that.


.

You're lying. Billeau gave a detailed explanation as did Willy Wanker. Montana even gave an explanation, that being, that you began squirming like a bltch. Zaroku also said he has to call it like he sees it due to the TRUTH. If you want to ask him why you lost, I think you can ask. He isn't hard to find, and the information that you duck is still present

[ShoulderRoll]

One of those judges was part of the Mayweather Mafia. The others were his friends! Understand? Shouldn't be too difficult!

I found out about this after the fact.


Furthermore, none of those judges gave adequate related explanations as was part of the deal. This was to show that they were not bias.

Judge 1 just said that he like Travestyny because he posted more .... something like that.


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Billeau2 and Zaroku are friends with a lot of people. But they are not Floyd fans so the "Mayweather Mafia" is irrelevant.

You are grasping at straws just because they voted against you.

I think it's a matter of honor and being a good sport at this point. You should pay your bet.

[Kuyukut]

Billeau2 and Zaroku are friends with a lot of people. But they are not Floyd fans so the "Mayweather Mafia" is irrelevant.

You are grasping at straws just because they voted against you.

I think it's a matter of honor and being a good sport at this point. You should pay your bet.

look at this phaggot poking his nose again on a topic he knows nothing about it. he's always trying to help out either his boyfriends or another phaggot just like him.

by the way idiot how about defending yourself on the thread that i made for you. you have a lot of shit to explain, 35 members voted for you and i got only 2 votes.

[travestyny]

look at this phaggot poking his nose again on a topic he knows nothing about it. he's always trying to help out either his boyfriends or another phaggot just like him.

by the way idiot how about defending yourself on the thread that i made for you. you have a lot of shit to explain, 35 members voted for you and i got only 2 votes.

Stop begging for attention with your fake ass polls. You're irrelevant. Crawl back into your pinoy circlejerk hole.

[Kuyukut]

Stop begging for attention with your fake ass polls. You're irrelevant. Crawl back into your pinoy circlejerk hole.

look at these phaggots they always help each other and will go the extra mile to defend their chosen phaggoty life.

idiot troll, next time ask for my permission before replying to my post.