Pac/Floyd investigation, documented punches (disputed rounds) blow by blow

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You do realize. Official wins don't hold water in this thread. What you just did is bring out your useless card, a default out button to say your argument to dispute this thread is weak as usual.. Simply a white flag. Saying you can't dispute video evidences so you bring out the official win record lol

A win is only cherished if its earned. This one isn't one of them bud, wether it's an official win or not. It's nothing to be proud off.

Same as Bradley's win over Pac when they fought the first time. His win was official alright, but everyone knows who got the real win and glory that night wasn't him.

Pac won it unofficially with Bradley as do this one with Floyd. And that's what matters. The true winner


By the way, still waiting for your answer, which you seem to be ducking for quite sometime now.

Who wins the round? The boxer who lands more punches per round or the one who lands less? - a simple answer will do

Its depends on many things , what does a judge give for ring generalship , Willie Pep won a round and never threw a punch , there is so much more to scoring a boxing match than solely landed numbers , connected punches are only half the story , what of defence , ring generalship , effective aggression .

Now you explain the science part of scoring , a simple answer will do .

[RussB23]

You do realize. Official wins don't hold water in this thread. What you just did is bring out your useless card, a default out button to say your argument to dispute this thread is weak as usual.. Simply a white flag. Saying you can't dispute video evidences so you bring out the official win record lol

A win is only cherished if its earned. This one isn't one of them bud, wether it's an official win or not. It's nothing to be proud off.

Same as Bradley's win over Pac when they fought the first time. His win was official alright, but everyone knows who got the real win and glory that night wasn't him.

Pac won it unofficially with Bradley as do this one with Floyd. And that's what matters. The true winner


By the way, still waiting for your answer, which you seem to be ducking for quite sometime now.

Who wins the round? The boxer who lands more punches per round or the one who lands less? - a simple answer will do

Yea, nothing changed since your last post. Still a floyd victory. Not changing anytime soon no matter how much you blabber in your little thread, thats the funny part .

[Spoon23]

Its depends on many things , what does a judge give for ring generalship , Willie Pep won a round and never threw a punch , there is so much more to scoring a boxing match than solely landed numbers , connected punches are only half the story , what of defence , ring generalship , effective aggression .

Now you explain the science part of scoring , a simple answer will do .

Clean and effective punching is first and foremost. Now since you butted in,

Assuming both were equals in ring generalship which is the science of taking command of the center of the ring, and assuming they are also both equals in effective aggression and parrying defense.

What is left is my question for Russ. Don't alter it. Answer it in the premise I gave you. Who wins, the one who landed the more cleaner and effective blows or the one who landed less cleaner and effective blows?

Go!

[Spoon23]

Yea, nothing changed since your last post. Still a floyd victory. Not changing anytime soon no matter how much you blabber in your little thread, thats the funny part .

That's it??

That's your rebuttal regarding this thread. Wow such a genius you are hehe your millionth post and still nothing to squeeze in the puny brain of yours. That's really it??

Nothing to substantiate it?

Sigh..Lame as always. Way to argue buddy!

I help you out. Floyd officially won.

But did he really?

Nope! This thread just shyits that bogus win over and over hahaha




# next time bring your A game buddy. You suck at defending your boyfriend.

[RussB23]

That's it??

That's your rebuttal regarding this thread. Wow such a genius you are hehe your millionth post and still nothing to squeeze in the puny brain of yours. That's really it??

Nothing to substantiate it?

Sigh..Lame as always. Way to argue buddy!

I help you out. Floyd officially won.

But did he really?

Nope! This thread just shyits that bogus win over and over hahaha




# next time bring your A game buddy. You suck at defending your boyfriend.

Yup, still a win. And still nobody believes you. Except for maybe 1 or 2 other pacfans on this forum. Keep going this is like comedy at this point. You do realize you are the laughing stock of this forum dont you? or do you think ppl are actually debating with you? lol

[Spoon23]

Yup, still a win. And still nobody believes you. Except for maybe 1 or 2 other pacfans on this forum. Keep going this is like comedy at this point. You do realize you are the laughing stock of this forum dont you? or do you think ppl are actually debating with you? lol

Spam away buddy. Spam away. You suck hahaha!

Enjoy my thread.

Actually facts are more powerful than a measly record. Rigged fights will always be remembered more than the actual score cards.

Floyd will always be remembered as a man who exploited the loopholes of the corrupt system.

IVS exploitation check

Maximum clinching to prevent an opponent from countering check

Referee allowing him to clinch at all times check

Paid of drug agency 150k check

Nsac giving a TUE 3 weeks after the fight check

Pac wasn't allowed legal taradol shots while Floyd didn't inform illegal use of IVS and later was allowed TUE check

Judges far-out scoring check

In other words, this is what Floyd will be remembered. A man who took boxing hostage and followed his bidding in every turn.

This is Floyd's legacy. Tainted and full of asterisk. More powerful than any record. Tsk tsk tsk..

The worst part is a rioded up Floyd lost to an injured Fighter hahaha

The truth.






Then come back for more ass whopping!

[RussB23]

Spam away buddy. Spam away. You suck hahaha!

Enjoy my thread.

Actually facts are more powerful than a measly record. Rigged fights will always be remembered more than the actual score cards.

Floyd will always be remembered as a man who exploited the loopholes of the corrupt system.

IVS exploitation check

Maximum clinching to prevent an opponent from countering check

Referee allowing him to clinch at all times check

Paid of drug agency 150k check

Nsac giving a TUE 3 weeks after the fight check

Pac wasn't allowed legal taradol shots while Floyd didn't inform illegal use of IVS and later was allowed TUE check

Judges far-out scoring check

In other words, this is what Floyd will be remembered. A man who took boxing hostage and followed his bidding in every turn.

This is Floyd's legacy. Tainted and full of asterisk. More powerful than any record. Tsk tsk tsk..

The worst part is a rioded up Floyd lost to an injured Fighter hahaha

The truth.






Then come back for more ass whopping!

good luck with all that....

[Spoon23]

good luck with all that....

You really are a Floyd fan. Emulating everything floyd does hahaha



Oh well, since you brought out your self destruct card. The card that exposes you as a nonsensical teenager who can't make an adult rebuttal for the millionth time lol

It only means one thing.. The "did not read card" as Floyd loves to bring out as well, is the card when all else fails bring out this card. The card that even if floyd looks stupid it's alright, since it's the only way to look like a ****** and save himself for more humiliation hahaha!

Also known as self ownage card.

This is you! Hahaha

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Clean and effective punching is first and foremost. Now since you butted in,

Assuming both were equals in ring generalship which is the science of taking command of the center of the ring, and assuming they are also both equals in effective aggression and parrying defense.

What is left is my question for Russ. Don't alter it. Answer it in the premise I gave you. Who wins, the one who landed the more cleaner and effective blows or the one who landed less cleaner and effective blows?

Go!

Who says what is clean effective define it , your video is mostly about grazes payed or grazes not paid clear missus and ineffective punching , what is the exact point a punch is clean effective , can you clarify exactly where a punch is scored and when it isnt , is that split second in time measurable or a pin point reference or the opinion of the viewer like how long is a piece of string ?

Ring generalship can never be equal in a fight that is a chess match , both fighters are known inside and out , their styles their fitness level everything about we all have seen , Floyd changed the way Manny fought because Floyd controlled the distance , Manny is setting traps while Floyd is a step ahead at every move , Manny is not his usual offense because this is Floyd Mayweather not Algieri , Being an official judge how many points would one subconsciously take away from Manny as you watch him not being allowed to execute anything , the terminator is looking like an impostor , now why is that happening , you think a judge is not aware of who is controlling this fight .

This is why the minute you ever have got to revert to slo mo to define a boxing match winner you know you lost , its not just touches its so many other aspects , Ring Generalship , Control , Defense , Effective Offence are all calculated differently by different judges and 99% of people that watched the fight scored the win to Floyd by a good clear margin , because everybody could see Manny was lost and couldnt do anything thats why he lost .

The trouble with Floyd is he is too good and the average hating halfwit dont understand what he actually does , how he shuts great fighters down with distance , the only times Floyd is forced to fight in the trenches he allows it and even states before hand he will go toe to toe , he did both times with Cotto and Maidana , they didnt force nothing Floyd allowed it , proof is the second Maidana fight , Floyd boxed his ears off , when Floyd controls range its game over .

Floyd was the ring general against Manny and not by a little by a lot , Floyd was the guy controlling the way the fight would be fought , Floyd was Floyd it was Manny who was not allowed to be Manny , any fool that knows anything about boxing knows it .

[Spoon23]

Who says what is clean effective define it , your video is mostly about grazes payed or grazes not paid clear missus and ineffective punching , what is the exact point a punch is clean effective , can you clarify exactly where a punch is scored and when it isnt , is that split second in time measurable or a pin point reference or the opinion of the viewer like how long is a piece of string ?

Ring generalship can never be equal in a fight that is a chess match , both fighters are known inside and out , their styles their fitness level everything about we all have seen , Floyd changed the way Manny fought because Floyd controlled the distance , Manny is setting traps while Floyd is a step ahead at every move , Manny is not his usual offense because this is Floyd Mayweather not Algieri , Being an official judge how many points would one subconsciously take away from Manny as you watch him not being allowed to execute anything , the terminator is looking like an impostor , now why is that happening , you think a judge is not aware of who is controlling this fight .

This is why the minute you ever have got to revert to slo mo to define a boxing match winner you know you lost , its not just touches its so many other aspects , Ring Generalship , Control , Defense , Effective Offence are all calculated differently by different judges and 99% of people that watched the fight scored the win to Floyd by a good clear margin , because everybody could see Manny was lost and couldnt do anything thats why he lost .

The trouble with Floyd is he is too good and the average hating halfwit dont understand what he actually does , how he shuts great fighters down with distance , the only times Floyd is forced to fight in the trenches he allows it and even states before hand he will go toe to toe , he did both times with Cotto and Maidana , they didnt force nothing Floyd allowed it , proof is the second Maidana fight , Floyd boxed his ears off , when Floyd controls range its game over .

Floyd was the ring general against Manny and not by a little by a lot , Floyd was the guy controlling the way the fight would be fought , Floyd was Floyd it was Manny who was not allowed to be Manny , any fool that knows anything about boxing knows it .

Lol jibber jabber nonsense. Wasted effort buddy. You didn't answer my question. Your comprehension is lagging again.

Answer my question based on my premise. Don't worry. I'll come back with a long one. Just answer my question first.

Here it is again. Comprehend and absorb.

Clean and effective punching is first and foremost. Now since you butted in,

Assuming both were equals in ring generalship which is the science of taking command of the center of the ring, and assuming they are also both equals in effective aggression and parrying defense.

What is left is my question for Russ. Don't alter it. Answer it in the premise I gave you. Who wins, the one who landed the more cleaner and effective blows or the one who landed less cleaner and effective blows?

It's a simple question.

Go!