Muhammad Ali Responds To Floyd Mayweather Jr.

[Elroy1]

And just to give your senseless question an answer anyway...

Zuri Lawrence!

He was a bigger, and better skilled version of Ali.

And he got wasted!

[LacedUp]

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Yea because he thought I was an alt like you,then ridiculed me for having a good facility and FAILED to realize one of the greatest of all time Lewis trained here before he said there was no boxing gyms around me?Yea hes a smart one alright,his location CLEARLY says THE JUNGLE so that explains a lot of his responses to me .! You are no better you continue to repost quotes that make you look ******..dealing with you is like the equivalent of me fighting old sick people in terms of responding to you....."LACED" up....

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It's always the same with these pricks, everybody's an alt. It escapes them how some guys can reach similar conclusions despite being oceans apart.

I'll tell you how it's done.

Someone like LacedUp has a pre-conceived agenda regarding their favourite fighters and eras and how they WANT reality to be. They THEN go on to build their views surrounding that constructed reality.

But there are some guys who just try to take what is there and carry it all out to it's logical extensions.

It's in this way that me, Juggernaut and many other posters come to very similar viewpoints without any real collaboration.

When I back a boxer in a certain fantasy match for example or give a description of one measured against another time, how that boxer comes out for me is determined simply by how he measures up. There are absolutely no predispositions imposed before running the facts.

Let's not forget the REAL reason LacedUp showed up on this thread...

The guys is an Ali fanatic and has a tattoo of Muhammad Ali on his arm and shoulder!!!!

He HAS to support! At all cost, no matter what the evidence says!

Who the **** would be that ****** really?

Aren't you the one who's try to say I was an alt of that other guy from Australia? And you even claimed Ray Corso was my alt too. Idiotic.

My favourite fighter of all times is Ali. Have I claimed other people would beat him? Yes.

You say I have a preconceived idea about my favourite fighter, yet all of your predictions involving Wladimir Klitschko involves a maximum 3 round KO. This is the guy who's had one 2 round fight in the last decade Yet in your mind he's an indestructible machine who'll beat everyone in the first couple of rounds.. Everyone, except for those he actually fights of course.

Everyone thinks you're an absolute moron. Your gibberish is laughed at more than Kanye West's comparing himself to Jesus.

[Elroy1]

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Aren't you the one who's try to say I was an alt of that other guy from Australia? And you even claimed Ray Corso was my alt too. Idiotic.

Goes around comes around.

My favourite fighter of all times is Ali. Have I claimed other people would beat him? Yes.

Never seen it.

You say I have a preconceived idea about my favourite fighter, yet all of your predictions involving Wladimir Klitschko involves a maximum 3 round KO. This is the guy who's had one 2 round fight in the last decade Yet in your mind he's an indestructible machine who'll beat everyone in the first couple of rounds.. Everyone, except for those he actually fights of course.

Here is the important part of my rebuttal and the only bit of your post that deserves serious reflection...

I usually only give Wladimir no more than 3 rounds to knock out your would be adversaries because the guys you put up against him are weaker than anything that Klitschko would even be ALLOWED to knock out in reality.

And obviously the guys that Klitschko ACTUALLY fights were in turn better than anything that you seriously try to put up against him.

Klitschko is not even ALLOWED to fight opponents as weak as Frazier or Ali for Christ sake!!!

Everyone thinks you're an absolute moron. Your gibberish is laughed at more than Kanye West's comparing himself to Jesus.

The only time I've ever seen anybody level an accusation like that is when it's from nothing less than a COMPLETE nut-bag!

Good riddance to bad rubbish!

[anonymous2.0]

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well that's ****ing terrifying

[Mr.MojoRisin']

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Goes around comes around.



Never seen it.



Here is the important part of my rebuttal and the only bit of your post that deserves serious reflection...

I usually only give Wladimir no more than 3 rounds to knock out your would be adversaries because the guys you put up against him are weaker than anything that Klitschko would even be ALLOWED to knock out in reality.

And obviously the guys that Klitschko ACTUALLY fights were in turn better than anything that you seriously try to put up against him.

Klitschko is not even ALLOWED to fight opponents as weak as Frazier or Ali for Christ sake!!!



The only time I've ever seen anybody level an accusation like that is when it's from nothing less than a COMPLETE nut-bag!

Good riddance to bad rubbish!

You can only expect the guys like Ali and Frazier to be faster and stronger because of a better understanding of sports science and nutrition. Hell, Hagler's trainers told him to eat 3 times a day and that's all they said they knew. Trainers back then were more stuck in old ways. Now days we have 3 different trainers for one fighter who have different knowledge of sports.

[Elroy1]

You can only expect the guys like Ali and Frazier to be faster and stronger because of a better understanding of sports science and nutrition. Hell, Hagler's trainers told him to eat 3 times a day and that's all they said they knew. Trainers back then were more stuck in old ways. Now days we have 3 different trainers for one fighter who have different knowledge of sports.

NO No nononon

You don't get out of it like that.

Your Lorentz contraction of time between the eras serves to render any debate between eras meaningless, because (a) we don't know if any such differences would still mean that Ali or Frazier would be able to win and more importantly (b) If you made Ali and Joe bigger and stronger and faster and more skilled through different training and competition then they would not even BE Ali and Frazier anymore!

They would have diffe3rent balances, and different tactics and strategies around what TODAY is required to win.

What guys like you far more ******y friend LacedUp here is trying to claim is that Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier.. AS THEY WERE.. Bummy skills and opponents, the lot.. Could compete with todays boxers AS THEY ACTUALLY ARE!

THAT is the epitome of "NUT BAGGERY".

[Mr.MojoRisin']

And just to give your senseless question an answer anyway...

Zuri Lawrence!

He was a bigger, and better skilled version of Ali.

And he got wasted!

https://********/fWXvk7iBdGk?t=680

If you think that this Bum mother****er equats to Ali in any way then you are blind.

https://********/ctKAGKVpCUU?t=114

This is the real Ali, I don't Know who you have been watching but this guy was the real deal not the fake ass boxers you've been watching.

[rockybone]

Alie was heavy while floyed is a middle weight.

[Elroy1]

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If you think that this Bum mother****er equats to Ali in any way then you are blind.

https://********/ctKAGKVpCUU?t=114

This is the real Ali, I don't Know who you have been watching but this guy was the real deal not the fake ass boxers you've been watching.

EEEErrrrrr....

I don't know what spectacle clearing gel you use there mate but I'm certain it's rose tinted.

Honestly I clicked your link, found myself in the middle of the fight and what I seen wasn't too bad at all!

If THAT'S (Lawrence) what passes as a BUM in the Klitschko era then there can be no doubt that it's never been better.

And the ridiculous Ali Frazier 1 fight, a truly pathetic display of boxing with hardly any defences of both fighters and both guys totally unable to even hurt each other at all despite constantly landing windmakers.

There is very little skill level by comparison. All you can really say is that Frazier marches himself forward continuously like no modern HW is ****** enough to do (otherwise they'd be immediately knocked out, but was ok in Frazier's time because there were hardly any hard punchers) and you can say that Ali, runs around the ring trying to do anything BUT box and seemingly thinks he is in the tour de France.

Now I can understand Ali running from a hard hitter like a Tua or a Peter all night long, but FRAZIER? Pathetic!

You provided your own example of ******ity.

So Lawrence WAS a bit of a bummy boxer, with little power!

But you put him back in the 70's, OBVIOUSLY he does much better.

Zuri Lawrence = Muhammad Ali in absolute terms. Only RELATIVELY speaking is Ali better, because he only had to fight trash!

[Mr.MojoRisin']

EEEErrrrrr....

I don't know what spectacle clearing gel you use there mate but I'm certain it's rose tinted.

Honestly I clicked your link, found myself in the middle of the fight and what I seen wasn't too bad at all!

If THAT'S (Lawrence) what passes as a BUM in the Klitschko era then there can be no doubt that it's never been better.

And the ridiculous Ali Frazier 1 fight, a truly pathetic display of boxing with hardly any defences of both fighters and both guys totally unable to even hurt each other at all despite constantly landing windmakers.

There is very little skill level by comparison. All you can really say is that Frazier marches himself forward continuously like no modern HW is ****** enough to do (otherwise they'd be immediately knocked out, but was ok in Frazier's time because there were hardly any hard punchers) and you can say that Ali, runs around the ring trying to do anything BUT box and seemingly thinks he is in the tour de France.

Now I can understand Ali running from a hard hitter like a Tua or a Peter all night long, but FRAZIER? Pathetic!

You provided your own example of ******ity.

So Lawrence WAS a bit of a bummy boxer, with little power!

But you put him back in the 70's, OBVIOUSLY he does much better.

Zuri Lawrence = Muhammad Ali in absolute terms. Only RELATIVELY speaking is Ali better, because he only had to fight trash!

The point was they have no similarity in style so you have no argument to say Zuri was a bigger, stronger version of Ali. Your argument is invalid now since you are unable to name a fighter Brock beat that had a style similar to Ali.