Muhammad Ali Responds To Floyd Mayweather Jr.

[Elroy1]

Ali has the most manufactured career of all time by FAR.

It makes Deontay Wilder's career look high quality..

And there's nobody to even compare to with regards to how many gifts and assists were received.

Muhammad's entire success was based really upon gift decisions and outside assistance.

Without this, he was basically just another bum.

Very little skills, or power.

[billeau2]

Awwww geee that's a real good come back for a simpleton like you!!

You smash good boxers, and support ancient bums!

And you have absolutely no clue about reality whatsoever!

You make Jughead look intelligent. The shizzle that comes out of your pie hole speaks for itself. If your speak is reality then we really do live in the matrix.

[billeau2]

Ali has the most manufactured career of all time by FAR.

It makes Deontay Wilder's career look high quality..

And there's nobody to even compare to with regards to how many gifts and assists were received.

Muhammad's entire success was based really upon gift decisions and outside assistance.

Without this, he was basically just another bum.



Very little skills, or power.

Feel free to take the tinfoil hat off, as the microwaves have shrunk your brain. And by all means do consider toasting bread in the bathtub. Just plug it in I am sure the toaster will float.

[juggernaut666]

Both clinchers and rabbits. Great skill, no punch, if holding were penalized Ali would've never won a title.

This could possibly be true.ali had no true Hw power,his best attribute was the clinch and pull the neck.Funny delusionists like billeu praise Ali but then cry with current clinchers,though ironically a guy like wlad has a great k.o percentage,Ali does not.


I think Alis lack of a clinch would greatly effect his abilities if he fought with that same hands down style,anyone who says differently are clearly in fantasy land.

[Elroy1]

This could possibly be true.ali had no true Hw power,his best attribute was the clinch and pull the neck.Funny delusionists like billeu praise Ali but then cry with current clinchers,though ironically a guy like wlad has a great k.o percentage,Ali does not.


I think Alis lack of a clinch would greatly effect his abilities if he fought with that same hands down style,anyone who says differently are clearly in fantasy land.

Yes and additionally it's well noted that Muhammad Ali was fundamentally rather flawed as a boxer even technically as well.

Of course plenty of guys were successful being rather unorthodox like David Haye and Roy Jones for example and even someone like Vitali with his hands down by the hips cowboy style.

But all these guys have something in common and that was reflexes.

Muhammad was, except at rare moments, utterly devoid of reflexes.

He almost seemed to WANT to get hit. Very disturbing.

[billeau2]

Yes and additionally it's well noted that Muhammad Ali was fundamentally rather flawed as a boxer even technically as well.

Of course plenty of guys were successful being rather unorthodox like David Haye and Roy Jones for example and even someone like Vitali with his hands down by the hips cowboy style.

But all these guys have something in common and that was reflexes.

Muhammad was, except at rare moments, utterly devoid of reflexes.

He almost seemed to WANT to get hit. Very disturbing.

There are contrarian points of view....There are individuals who even when they had very flimsy proof...it was sufficient to destroy a conventional way of thinking, for example Galileo who SomeTimes could predict the placement of Jupiter's moons based on gravity, or Chomsky who destroyed Skinner only by showing language cannot be operantly conditioned and could show little else (at the time). Then there are people who just disregaard the evidence in front of their eyes.

There is tons of footage, all it takes is a trip to YouTube....Even looking at some of the Giffs here can demonstrate that Ali had incredible reflexes. The sheer amount of this proof, if one can take the time to look at it, is such that "rare moments" is a poor characterization to say the least.

[Elroy1]

There are contrarian points of view....There are individuals who even when they had very flimsy proof...it was sufficient to destroy a conventional way of thinking, for example Galileo who SomeTimes could predict the placement of Jupiter's moons based on gravity, or Chomsky who destroyed Skinner only by showing language cannot be operantly conditioned and could show little else (at the time). Then there are people who just disregaard the evidence in front of their eyes.

There is tons of footage, all it takes is a trip to YouTube....Even looking at some of the Giffs here can demonstrate that Ali had incredible reflexes. The sheer amount of this proof, if one can take the time to look at it, is such that "rare moments" is a poor characterization to say the least.

You would like everyone to believe that.

Basically what we see in gifs and highlight reels IS the sole evidence for an Ali with reflexes.

The truth comes from watching the actual FIGHTS!

There we see a different picture.

We see a man smashed constantly no matter how short or slow his opponent was and the only time we see him evading damage really, is when he's running around the ring like a turkey not engaging anyway.

But you already know this.

As do most people these days anyway.

You are right up there as a shining example of the "nut-bag elite".

You live in a world of faith, which is directly in contradiction with CRUSHING evidence against you on every front.

Rather than just accept that you are wrong, you turn to your mythology.

Pathetic.

Absolutely pathetic!

[juggernaut666]

Yes and additionally it's well noted that Muhammad Ali was fundamentally rather flawed as a boxer even technically as well.

Of course plenty of guys were successful being rather unorthodox like David Haye and Roy Jones for example and even someone like Vitali with his hands down by the hips cowboy style.

But all these guys have something in common and that was reflexes.

Muhammad was, except at rare moments, utterly devoid of reflexes.

He almost seemed to WANT to get hit. Very disturbing.

Alis style can work however..vitali is 6'7 and much more lengthier and fights at better angles and has advanced footwork ,not simply running around the ring.Theres a post on NSB talking who would be able to beat him in history and some of the replies are as dumb as it gets.Its almost like im on "ANOTHER" section......

[Elroy1]

Alis style can work however..vitali is 6'7 and much more lengthier and fights at better angles and has advanced footwork ,not simply running around the ring.Theres a post on NSB talking who would be able to beat him in history and some of the replies are as dumb as it gets.Its almost like im on "ANOTHER" section......

Yep, it's always disheartening when such threads like that are allowed to escape from that section.

They have no place in reality and do enormous damage to the sport, just like the people such as old Billy boy up there do to the sport also by continuing such idiocy long after it's been totally destroyed.

Ali had far greater heart than Floyd, no doubt about it, and on that note he can rubbish Floyd.

But in terms of boxing, Ali is LITERALLY a bum compared with Floyd.

In lb for lb terms, era absolute terms, Ali could not carry Floyd's jock strap.

[Rockin']

Yep, it's always disheartening when such threads like that are allowed to escape from that section.

They have no place in reality and do enormous damage to the sport, just like the people such as old Billy boy up there do to the sport also by continuing such idiocy long after it's been totally destroyed.

Ali had far greater heart than Floyd, no doubt about it, and on that note he can rubbish Floyd.

But in terms of boxing, Ali is LITERALLY a bum compared with Floyd.

In lb for lb terms, era absolute terms, Ali could not carry Floyd's jock strap.

"Ali is a bum compared.......". Compared to who, Zeus, Superman?

Floyd did well for himself at Heavyweight but lets not go overboard. Ali knocked Floyd tfo. He was just too small, he could box well though.