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  • Prime Langford vs. Prime Johnson

    I rarely get involved in fantasy matches because there is simply no way to know what would have happened. The only way to know is for the fight to have taken place. But since some of you goons are incapable of discussing history without interjecting your personal opinions, I thought we should get this one out of the way.

    PRIME Langford vs. PRIME Jack Johnson. Who you got?

    I'm going with Jack Johnson here for a few reasons.

    1. The weight:

    In their only fight, Jack Johnson was reportedly 185lbs.
    Sam Langford was 156lbs. So that's a 29lb advantage for JJohnson.

    So in their prime (as heavyweights), what would the weight be?

    Johnson would likely be about 208lbs (his weight for Jefferies is what I'm pondering here) and Langford would be around 170 - 180lbs.

    Taking 180, that's a 28lb advantage for Jack. So it's always confused me why people bring up the weights being a big deal and don't seem to realize that the gap in weight wasn't going to change, or would likely become wider if they met later.





    2. The first fight:
    While Langford certainly got better since the first fight. It would be silly to believe Johnson didn't.

    Anyhow, how many times have you heard of Langford taking a one sided beating in his career? Well that's what Johnson did to him in the first fight, with reports that Langford had to be hospitalized after being floored 3 times and having his eye closed. It was said in one report that no man has ever taken such a beating in the Chelsea ring.


    Pound for Pound, I'm going with Langford all the way. But Prime for Prime, I'm going Jack Johnson.







    Maybe this will help prove the point that I've tried to make over and over: that your personal opinion is your own, neither right nor wrong, and that's all there is to it. But I doubt it.

    So let the fighting begin where we all proceed to label each other as dummies for having differing opinions, because everyone knows that opinions are really facts and if your opinion doesn't match with others, they are ignorant morons.

    Enjoy!

  • #2
    Johnson was an incredible grappler who could control his opponent particularly well when he had one other point of contact. Langford was not evasive by nature.

    I think Johnson controls the action and wins in a head to head.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by billeau2 View Post
      Johnson was an incredible grappler who could control his opponent particularly well when he had one other point of contact. Langford was not evasive by nature.

      I think Johnson controls the action and wins in a head to head.
      How you feeling, young man? Everything all good...or as good as possible?

      Fvvcking blizzard here.

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      • #4
        I say JJ too.

        I like facts more than speculation. In all honesty I spec for Langford, but, since the fact is JJ has one over Sam. You have to favor the winner or at least give them the benefit of doubt. Sam Langford was incredible, but JJ did enough to at least have some doubt in their match up and where there is doubt I fell like I have to give the benefit to the fact.

        Floyd beats Pac prime-prime too I just thought it was funny because folks been shoving floyd-pac into convos again.

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        • #5
          I got Floyd over Pac Prime for Prime, too.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by travestyny View Post
            How you feeling, young man? Everything all good...or as good as possible?

            Fvvcking blizzard here.
            I heard of the blizzard, my little sisters are in the area. My little sisters are in the area.

            Little sister #2 is married to a doctor, so she is on me and getting her hubby to make sure things are smooth, the wife is also on top of things... Makes my life pretty easy lol! A lot of physical therapy and some pain, but manageable.

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            • #7
              I agree with your assessments on the two fighters- Langford better P4P but Johnson beats him h2h at heavy.

              That being written, 90% of whats discussed here is opinion, sure you use evidence to support it, but in the end its almost all just opinion.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by DeeMoney View Post
                I agree with your assessments on the two fighters- Langford better P4P but Johnson beats him h2h at heavy.

                That being written, 90% of whats discussed here is opinion, sure you use evidence to support it, but in the end its almost all just opinion.
                Great post. I can agree with this.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by billeau2 View Post
                  I heard of the blizzard, my little sisters are in the area. My little sisters are in the area.

                  Little sister #2 is married to a doctor, so she is on me and getting her hubby to make sure things are smooth, the wife is also on top of things... Makes my life pretty easy lol! A lot of physical therapy and some pain, but manageable.
                  That's good news, brotha. Hope that you have a very speedy recovery!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by travestyny View Post
                    That's good news, brotha. Hope that you have a very speedy recovery!
                    Thanks T! appreciate it.

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