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  • Tatabanya
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    #41
    Originally posted by Rick Taylor
    My opinion is that everyone involved would have made an insane amount of money.
    Agreed. But in this case you should (hypothetically) emphasize more the lack of business acumen of those three, rather than implying that they were scared of Butterbean.

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      #42
      Originally posted by Tatabanya
      My logic tells that all of them would have no problem with the guy, but shìt happens of course...
      People would have said the same thing when Tommy Morrison fought bum Michael Bentt.

      Look what happened there.
      Bentt's record was nowhere near as good as Beans.

      Originally posted by Tatabanya
      Agreed. But in this case you should (hypothetically) emphasize more the lack of business acumen of those three, rather than implying that they were scared of Butterbean.
      It seems like fear though.
      What other reason to turn down a huge payday?

      You pointed out a risk vs reward scenario yourself.

      If Bean was popular yet feather fisted they would have all jumped at the chance and you know it.

      Bean had legit punching power.

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        #43
        Originally posted by Rick Taylor
        What other reason to turn down a huge payday?
        I don't know; did someone ever propose the Butterbean fight to anyone of the three? I can't seem to remember that happening.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Tatabanya
          I don't know; did someone ever propose the Butterbean fight to anyone of the three? I can't seem to remember that happening.
          Butterbean always called a matchup with Tyson his "dream fight"

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            #45
            Originally posted by Rick Taylor
            Butterbean always called a matchup with Tyson his "dream fight"
            Of course, but no promoter got seriously into talks for it as far as I can remember.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Tatabanya
              Of course, but no promoter got seriously into talks for it as far as I can remember.
              We obviously don't know what happens behind the scenes.

              We know why fighters such as Tyson and Louis would avoid a puncher like Bean.

              But why would a promoter not want this fight?
              Can you think of a reason?

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                #47
                Originally posted by Rick Taylor
                But why would a promoter not want this fight?
                Can you think of a reason?
                We're now entirely used to see stuff like Floyd vs Conor, fights between YouTubers, etc.

                However, at that time, the necessity of mixing different levels of fighter to make big money was not that strong, especially when you could combine the likes of Tyson, Holyfield and Lewis in various ways.

                One can argue about Butterbean's evident catch on the general public, his punching power, etc. But the fact is that NO ONE ever took him seriously as a top-level boxer. That's just cold reality. Damn, man, not only did he lose to an ancient Holmes, he was knocked out by 1-6-1 Mitchell fùcking Rose while he was on the verge of B-level stardom.
                Last edited by Tatabanya; 01-02-2021, 04:17 PM.

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Tatabanya
                  We're now entirely used to see stuff like Floyd vs Conor, fights between YouTubers, etc.

                  However, at that time, the necessity of mixing different levels of fighter to make big money was not that strong
                  Either YDKSAB or you are an outright liar. 😐

                  Originally posted by Tatabanya
                  One can argue about Butterbean's evident catch on the general public, his punching power
                  Originally posted by Tatabanya
                  he was on the verge of B-level stardom.
                  What is there to argue?
                  Bean is one of the most famous boxers of all time.

                  And he was clearly a devastating puncher.

                  toughman record
                  56–5 (36KO)

                  boxing record
                  77-10-4 (58 KO)

                  kickboxing record
                  3-4 (2KO)

                  mma record
                  17-10 (8KO) (9submission)

                  Some of those submissions are from punches


                  Originally posted by Tatabanya
                  But the fact is that NO ONE ever took him seriously as a top-level boxer. That's just cold reality.
                  Is that you Lennox? 😂

                  But Michael Bentt did deserve a title shot? with a far worse record than Bean.

                  What did Lomo do to deserve a title fight so early?

                  Why did a bum like Ricardo Torres get ranked for Cotto?

                  Leon Spinks?

                  Tyson fought Mccneely. Bean massacred Mcneely in 1 round.

                  We both know you just have some sort of bias against Bean
                  You seem genuinely salty that Bean is more well known then Louis.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Rick Taylor
                    Yes, and Bean was a superstar of boxing.
                    He transcended the sport.
                    A pop culture figure of his era whether you like it or not.



                    By who? You? lmao

                    The general public doesn't care what boxing hipsters think.
                    Bean was far more well know than lennox louis ever will be.
                    And what did i initially write? Back then boxers were more concerned with what the boxing community thought of them than the general public. Thus, they chose not to fight him.
                    You asked, why didnt they and i explained why. You keep running it around in circles but the answers have all been provided

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by DeeMoney
                      And what did i initially write? Back then boxers were more concerned with what the boxing community thought of them than the general public. Thus, they chose not to fight him.
                      You asked, why didnt they and i explained why. You keep running it around in circles but the answers have all been provided
                      You are a liar and a coward.

                      During that time
                      Tyson used to to talk about harming peoples children and calling people names and swearing on TV. He used to cheat all the time in fights. including Biting opponents and punching the ref whist trying to hit the opponent after the fight.


                      Lennox mocked Alis Parkinsons and told the British public his "heart is in canada"

                      Neither cared what the "boxing community" thought

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