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  • joseph5620
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    #21
    Originally posted by REDEEMER
    Buster Mathis almost knocked Frazier down . Who hit harder him or Golota ? What 6”4 fighter would you rather take a clean shot from ? Go ahead say Mathis ,I know you want to . I bet you take Frazier over Bowe ,your that kind of poster reading some of your stuff on here . Ha
    Lamon Brewster knocked Golota clear out of the ring in one round with left hooks. He was no Joe Frazier either.


    The bottom line is that Golota lost to just about every top rated fighter he ever fought. He was a mentally weak quitter that couldn't handle pressure. It's idiotic to pick him over one of the best heavyweights in history who never quit.

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      #22
      Originally posted by joseph5620
      Lamon Brewster knocked Golota clear out of the ring in one round with left hooks. He was no Joe Frazier either.


      The bottom line is that Golota lost to just about every top rated fighter he ever fought. He was a mentally weak quitter that couldn't handle pressure. It's idiotic to pick him over one of the best heavyweights in history who never quit.
      Yes but you are talking about a Golota who was on his way down . Golota had a very small window ,even Duva said he was done basically after Bowe and was a head case to train .

      Brewster is also a very underated puncher and would still be considered a big boxer puncher in Frazier’s day . If we’re going by the same then let’s rate Brewster the same as Wlad ,right ?

      I respect opinions but I’m still taking Golota on his best day,the weight advantage is to much for me to confidently pick Frazier who again no one is saying what his best win is over a huge puncher . No one wants to say because he’s limited in that area .

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        #23
        Originally posted by REDEEMER
        Yes but you are talking about a Golota who was on his way down . Golota had a very small window ,even Duva said he was done basically after Bowe and was a head case to train .

        Brewster is also a very underated puncher and would still be considered a big boxer puncher in Frazier’s day . If we’re going by the same then let’s rate Brewster the same as Wlad ,right ?

        I respect opinions but I’m still taking Golota on his best day,the weight advantage is to much for me to confidently pick Frazier who again no one is saying what his best win is over a huge puncher . No one wants to say because he’s limited in that area .
        No, we're talking about Golota's entire career. Blown out in one round by Lennox Lewis. Quit against Tyson. Quit against Michael Grant. Self destructed twice against Bowe. Bit Samson Po'uha after he started getting his ass kicked. That's Golota. Brewster was never known as a puncher or fighter on Frazier's level so you can stop with that lie. If you don't understand these obvious facts then you
        should stop talking about boxing.
        Last edited by joseph5620; 12-27-2020, 06:15 PM.

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          #24
          Originally posted by REDEEMER
          Bowe never pressured Golota ? Not even your fellow posters here could agree to that .

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          You just resort to fanboy status with lying .

          The power jabs and shots that had Bowe backing off and hurt would hurt Frazier even more . What’s next Frazier’s chin is better then Bowes to ?


          your a Moron. Its like arguing with Rusty. I doubt you know what a definition is of relentless pressure is. Watch what you sent me, and look for the amount of times Bowe backed Golota up as compared to the times golota backed him up, did not retreat, or went forward right away after going back... Watch your own damn tape ha!



          How about watching a fight where Bowe pressures an opponent and looking at the difference.

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            #25
            Originally posted by joseph5620
            No, we're talking about Golota's entire career. Blown out in one round by Lennox Lewis. Quit against Tyson. Quit against Michael Grant. Self destructed twice against Bowe. Bit Samson Po'uha after he started getting his ass kicked. That's Golota. Brewster was never known as a puncher or fighter on Frazier's level so you can stop with that lie. If you don't understand these obvious facts then you
            should stop talking about boxing.
            No we are talking about a fantasy fight not a career if that’s the case Frazier had the better one but you are on the wrong thread because it’s certainly not me having that discussion ? Ha

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              #26
              Originally posted by billeau2
              your a Moron. Its like arguing with Rusty. I doubt you know what a definition is of relentless pressure is. Watch what you sent me, and look for the amount of times Bowe backed Golota up as compared to the times golota backed him up, did not retreat, or went forward right away after going back... Watch your own damn tape ha!



              How about watching a fight where Bowe pressures an opponent and looking at the difference.

              Not sure what your posting because the fight I’m talking about has Bowe is mainting center ring mostly and pushing Golota back ,I just posted the two fights and what was the major exchanges which shows pressure which is going forward . In fact Bowe when pressuring Golota was the time he got caught coming in so me posting videos without you really watching them makes you look even less intelligent and post another fight with no relevant meaning really .

              Edit : You have way to much time invested on trying to be correct so here we go again . And you want me to think Frazier is capable of pushing Golota back as if it’s going to be easy when he’s around 30 pounds less or so then a Bowe ? Ha

              You’re entitled to your opinion of any fantasy match but not blatantly lying when i just posted a fight showing what I stated .
              Last edited by REDEEMER; 12-27-2020, 07:51 PM.

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                #27
                Originally posted by REDEEMER
                No we are talking about a fantasy fight not a career if that’s the case Frazier had the better one but you are on the wrong thread because it’s certainly not me having that discussion ? Ha
                What I posted were facts about Golota's career. Those were not fantasies. Frazier is regarded as an all time great heavyweight who applied pressure and proved beyond a doubt that he was better than Golota. Andrew Golota is an all time head case that quit when things got tough or got blown out from fighters that pressured him. Facts.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by joseph5620
                  What I posted were facts about Golota's career. Those were not fantasies. Frazier is regarded as an all time great heavyweight who applied pressure and proved beyond a doubt that he was better than Golota. Andrew Golota is an all time head case that quit when things got tough or got blown out from fighters that pressured him. Facts.
                  Again you are in a discussion with yourself not once did I mention about Golota career fights only his mentality later in his career .

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by REDEEMER
                    Again you are in a discussion with yourself not once did I mention about Golota career fights only his mentality later in his career .
                    The fought when he bit Samson Po'uha after getting hurt was early in his career. There was no change in his mentality. That's who he was. So you'll have to find another excuse.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by joseph5620
                      The fought when he bit Samson Po'uha after getting hurt was early in his career. There was no change in his mentality. That's who he was. So you'll have to find another excuse.
                      Excuse about what ? At his best he was against Bowe so ,no I don’t need an excuse as I could use Frazier almost getting knocked out by Bonavena ? But that doesn’t resemble a Golota does it ? Golota fought Bowe a year after he fought Samson so you don’t even know what you are trying to get across.

                      You brought up Brewster and told me he wasn’t a power puncher even though he had 26 knockouts in 32 fights going into the Klitschko fight and still a great left hook himself, well that if you know boxing ? Ha
                      Last edited by REDEEMER; 12-27-2020, 08:29 PM.

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