Bone crusher names the best fighters he faced

[JAB5239]

Well I thought Tyson only fought "bums", so therefore, Bonecrusher mustve been a "bum" (sarcasm)

Nah, fr tho, Bonecrusher as a good resume too. Wins over witherspoon and bruno. He was actually the first dude to have a college degree and win a heavyweight title.

I would never call him an upper echelon heavyweight, but he was obviously world class.

It's funny, but I posted this and the next day my Muay thai coach (Kru) posted a picture of himself and Bonecrusher on Facebook from a couple days earlier.

[BattlingNelson]

In the red after 156 posts? Lol, that says a lot.

Yay. Might be a new handle from a usual (banned) suspect....

[JAB5239]

Yay. Might be a new handle from a usual (banned) suspect....

That's what I figured too.

[Marchegiano]

Big-punching James “Bonecrusher” Smith was a late bloomer who regularly tested himself against the best of his generation and was an unlikely heavyweight titleholder in the mid-1980s.

Smith was born in the small town of Magnolia, North Carolina on April 3, 1953. He was the third born of six children to sharecrop farmers.

“It was a good place,” Smith told The Ring. “There was about a thousand people [who lived there], everybody knew each other, most people were family. We worked hard on the farm and went to church on Sundays. We respected people and people respected us.”

The mild-mannered youngster excelled in school and was good at sports.

“I played basketball in high school, I was one of the biggest kids in high school,” Smith said. “I wanted to play football, but my parents said ‘don’t play football because you might get hurt’ and I end up being a prize fighter (laughs).”

Smith graduated from Shaw University in 1975 with a Bachelor of Arts degree in business administration. He then enrolled in the Army and it was during a three-year stint that the then 23-year-old first encountered boxing.

“One day I went to the gym to play basketball,” Smith recalled. “The boxing coach was there and said, ‘Hey Smith, why don’t you try for the boxing team?’ I said, ‘Nah, I don’t want to do that.’ He followed up with me, I tried out for the boxing team and I was pretty good. I just stuck with it.”

The young fighter left the services in 1978 and ventured to Philadelphia. It was during that time that he managed to spend invaluable time with former heavyweight champion Joe Frazier, who served as his mentor.

Smith, who went 35-4 in the unpaid ranks, turned professional at the advanced age of 27 in November 1981. However, his handlers made the curious choice of matching him with former amateur standout James Broad in his debut.

“I should never have been in the ring with James Broad in my first fight,” said Smith, who was stopped in four rounds. “He was the United States representative in the Olympics and would probably have been champion. The Olympics were in Russia [in 1980] and the United States didn’t go, they boycotted it.”

The tough-love approach continued when Smith bested future cruiserweight titleholder Ricky Parkey in his second outing.

Smith was 14-1 when he traveled to London to face rising star Frank Bruno in May 1984. The visitor was given a boxing lesson through nine rounds but rallied to pull out an excellent knockout win in the 10th.

“I was surprised that he was more of a boxer because he’d knocked everybody out,” Smith said. “He moved around and stayed away from me. He probably would have won, but he came to me [late in the fight]. I was tired, he was tired, and I just hit him with some combinations and knocked him out in the last round.

“I understand that he was going to fight Larry [Holmes], but they took me for a tune-up and I tuned him up.”


January 1985 issue

Instead, it was Smith who met the aforementioned Holmes for the IBF title in November 1984.

“Larry had been heavyweight world champion three years before I turned pro, he had a lot of experience,” acknowledged Smith. “I took him 12 rounds (before being stopped on cuts), it was a good learning experience.”

Smith became inconsistent, losing three out of his next four fights to Tony Tubbs (UD 10), Tim Witherspoon (UD 10) and Marvis Frazier (UD 10). However, those setbacks hardened his resolved and he turned things around to score solid wins over respected trio Mike Weaver (TKO 1), Jesse Ferguson (MD 10) and David Bey (UD 10).

But despite an improvement in form, Smith, 33, wondered if he would get another world title opportunity.

“I was suing Don King because he had promised me a world title fight,” he explained. “I was old, so I was tired of waiting. I got another promoter and King started suing me for breach of contract, so I started suing him.

“He called me up to settle the lawsuit and gave me seven days’ notice to fight a rematch with Tim Witherspoon. The very first punch I hit him with he was hurt. I just followed up and took him out with about 30 seconds left in the first round.”

This stunning win turned the heavyweight division upside down. Larry Merchant described Smith’s victory on the HBO telecast as, “a monumental upset.”


Smith and Tyson in 1987. Photo from The Ring archive

Just three months later, Smith met WBC counterpart Mike Tyson. Although Smith went the distance, he lost a wide unanimous decision.

“I guess I got caught up in the hype,” admitted Smith. “I was bigger, stronger and smarter than Tyson. I could have beat him if I’d listened to my trainer. I backed up a little too much. He was able to slip punches and come back with combinations. He was real quick, strong inside, trying to rip his punches, he was really trying to hurt guys.

“Being older helped, I was able to handle it because I’d been around a little while. He was good, you can’t become heavyweight champion of the world without being good. He was a small heavyweight, and I think the media had him built up and he was riding on that media hype. He worked it and made a lot of money off it.”

Smith continued with his career but never fought for the heavyweight title again. He lost to an up-and-coming Razor Ruddock (KO 7), beat Weaver (UD 12) and dropped decisions to Greg Page and Michael Moorer before drifting from the upper echelons of the sport.

After losing a rematch to fellow golden oldie Larry Holmes in 1999, “Bonecrusher” retired with a record of 44-17-1 (32 knockouts) at the age of 46.

Now 67, Smith lives in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina with his fiancée Doreen. He has two daughters, a stepson and two grandchildren. He stays active doing a number of things.

“I do speeches, travel and do network marketing,” Smith said of his life today. “Right now, I represent a company called Total Life Changes.”

The ex-titleholder graciously took time to speak to The Ring about the best he faced in 10 key categories.

BEST JAB
Larry Holmes: He had a real good jab; it was hard and strong. He was tall, he was big and he was quick with that jab. He learned from Muhammad Ali – real good jab.

BEST DEFENSE
Mike Tyson: He was short. I was 6-foot-4 and he was 5-foot-10. He would duck, he was taught how to slip punches and duck. Bill Cayton had a library of fights, Mike learned from those videos and studied fighters.

BEST HANDSPEED
Tyson: Tony Tubbs had real good handspeed. He was real fast, but Tyson had good handspeed as well. They were different fighters. Tubbs was more of a boxer, Tyson was more of a puncher. I’d probably pick Tyson.

BEST FOOTWORK
Greg Page: He had a style like Muhammad Ali; they were both movers, [Page] patterned [himself] after Ali. I remember in the first round, when we fought, he turned his back and came right back with a right hand and I went straight down. I got up and went 10 rounds, but he dropped me in the first round with a walkaway right hand.

SMARTEST
Holmes: Larry was champion for six or seven years, he learned from Muhammad Ali.

STRONGEST
Mike Weaver: They called him “Hercules”, but I stopped him in the first round. The guys I was fearful of, I jumped on them and tried to take them out quick. He was very strong, and I was leery of Weaver. I went 12 rounds with him [in the rematch]. Witherspoon was strong.

BEST CHIN
Tyson: I hit Tyson with good shots. You had to hit him to be around.

BEST PUNCHER
Tyson: He knew the anatomy and where to hit a person. He knew the soft spots, like solar plexus, he knew the pressure points of a body. The next day, I was sore and it hurt.

BEST BOXING SKILLS
Holmes: He had good head movement, he was just experienced. He fought a lot of top guys: Ken Norton, Ali.

BEST OVERALL
Holmes: He was smart and very knowledgeable about boxing. Several guys got him in trouble and he was able to come back and beat them.

[JAB5239]

This thread is a prime example of how boxing fans treat boxers of a lower echelon. If you're not an "ATG" you're called a bum, a can etc. Even if you managed to win a world freaking title.

It's shameful. You don't see this in other combat sports like MMA or Kickboxing, in fact some of the most appriciated fighters there are guys who were fun to watch but never reached a high level.

I very seldom use the word "bum" when talking about any fighter. John Scully had a great quote describing what it takes to get in the ring. It applies to all fighters no matter their level or ability. I don't remember it exactly at the moment, but I'll post it when I find it. Being a long time poster I'm sure you remember it.

[billeau2]

I would never call him an upper echelon heavyweight, but he was obviously world class.

It's funny, but I posted this and the next day my Muay thai coach (Kru) posted a picture of himself and Bonecrusher on Facebook from a couple days earlier.

Little known fact:

Bone Crusher is also a college graduate!

[JAB5239]

Big-punching James “Bonecrusher” Smith was a late bloomer who regularly tested himself against the best of his generation and was an unlikely heavyweight titleholder in the mid-1980s.

Smith was born in the small town of Magnolia, North Carolina on April 3, 1953. He was the third born of six children to sharecrop farmers.

“It was a good place,” Smith told The Ring. “There was about a thousand people [who lived there], everybody knew each other, most people were family. We worked hard on the farm and went to church on Sundays. We respected people and people respected us.”

The mild-mannered youngster excelled in school and was good at sports.

“I played basketball in high school, I was one of the biggest kids in high school,” Smith said. “I wanted to play football, but my parents said ‘don’t play football because you might get hurt’ and I end up being a prize fighter (laughs).”

Smith graduated from Shaw University in 1975 with a Bachelor of Arts degree in business administration. He then enrolled in the Army and it was during a three-year stint that the then 23-year-old first encountered boxing.

“One day I went to the gym to play basketball,” Smith recalled. “The boxing coach was there and said, ‘Hey Smith, why don’t you try for the boxing team?’ I said, ‘Nah, I don’t want to do that.’ He followed up with me, I tried out for the boxing team and I was pretty good. I just stuck with it.”

The young fighter left the services in 1978 and ventured to Philadelphia. It was during that time that he managed to spend invaluable time with former heavyweight champion Joe Frazier, who served as his mentor.

Smith, who went 35-4 in the unpaid ranks, turned professional at the advanced age of 27 in November 1981. However, his handlers made the curious choice of matching him with former amateur standout James Broad in his debut.

“I should never have been in the ring with James Broad in my first fight,” said Smith, who was stopped in four rounds. “He was the United States representative in the Olympics and would probably have been champion. The Olympics were in Russia [in 1980] and the United States didn’t go, they boycotted it.”

The tough-love approach continued when Smith bested future cruiserweight titleholder Ricky Parkey in his second outing.

Smith was 14-1 when he traveled to London to face rising star Frank Bruno in May 1984. The visitor was given a boxing lesson through nine rounds but rallied to pull out an excellent knockout win in the 10th.

“I was surprised that he was more of a boxer because he’d knocked everybody out,” Smith said. “He moved around and stayed away from me. He probably would have won, but he came to me [late in the fight]. I was tired, he was tired, and I just hit him with some combinations and knocked him out in the last round.

“I understand that he was going to fight Larry [Holmes], but they took me for a tune-up and I tuned him up.”


January 1985 issue

Instead, it was Smith who met the aforementioned Holmes for the IBF title in November 1984.

“Larry had been heavyweight world champion three years before I turned pro, he had a lot of experience,” acknowledged Smith. “I took him 12 rounds (before being stopped on cuts), it was a good learning experience.”

Smith became inconsistent, losing three out of his next four fights to Tony Tubbs (UD 10), Tim Witherspoon (UD 10) and Marvis Frazier (UD 10). However, those setbacks hardened his resolved and he turned things around to score solid wins over respected trio Mike Weaver (TKO 1), Jesse Ferguson (MD 10) and David Bey (UD 10).

But despite an improvement in form, Smith, 33, wondered if he would get another world title opportunity.

“I was suing Don King because he had promised me a world title fight,” he explained. “I was old, so I was tired of waiting. I got another promoter and King started suing me for breach of contract, so I started suing him.

“He called me up to settle the lawsuit and gave me seven days’ notice to fight a rematch with Tim Witherspoon. The very first punch I hit him with he was hurt. I just followed up and took him out with about 30 seconds left in the first round.”

This stunning win turned the heavyweight division upside down. Larry Merchant described Smith’s victory on the HBO telecast as, “a monumental upset.”


Smith and Tyson in 1987. Photo from The Ring archive

Just three months later, Smith met WBC counterpart Mike Tyson. Although Smith went the distance, he lost a wide unanimous decision.

“I guess I got caught up in the hype,” admitted Smith. “I was bigger, stronger and smarter than Tyson. I could have beat him if I’d listened to my trainer. I backed up a little too much. He was able to slip punches and come back with combinations. He was real quick, strong inside, trying to rip his punches, he was really trying to hurt guys.

“Being older helped, I was able to handle it because I’d been around a little while. He was good, you can’t become heavyweight champion of the world without being good. He was a small heavyweight, and I think the media had him built up and he was riding on that media hype. He worked it and made a lot of money off it.”

Smith continued with his career but never fought for the heavyweight title again. He lost to an up-and-coming Razor Ruddock (KO 7), beat Weaver (UD 12) and dropped decisions to Greg Page and Michael Moorer before drifting from the upper echelons of the sport.

After losing a rematch to fellow golden oldie Larry Holmes in 1999, “Bonecrusher” retired with a record of 44-17-1 (32 knockouts) at the age of 46.

Now 67, Smith lives in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina with his fiancée Doreen. He has two daughters, a stepson and two grandchildren. He stays active doing a number of things.

“I do speeches, travel and do network marketing,” Smith said of his life today. “Right now, I represent a company called Total Life Changes.”

The ex-titleholder graciously took time to speak to The Ring about the best he faced in 10 key categories.

BEST JAB
Larry Holmes: He had a real good jab; it was hard and strong. He was tall, he was big and he was quick with that jab. He learned from Muhammad Ali – real good jab.

BEST DEFENSE
Mike Tyson: He was short. I was 6-foot-4 and he was 5-foot-10. He would duck, he was taught how to slip punches and duck. Bill Cayton had a library of fights, Mike learned from those videos and studied fighters.

BEST HANDSPEED
Tyson: Tony Tubbs had real good handspeed. He was real fast, but Tyson had good handspeed as well. They were different fighters. Tubbs was more of a boxer, Tyson was more of a puncher. I’d probably pick Tyson.

BEST FOOTWORK
Greg Page: He had a style like Muhammad Ali; they were both movers, [Page] patterned [himself] after Ali. I remember in the first round, when we fought, he turned his back and came right back with a right hand and I went straight down. I got up and went 10 rounds, but he dropped me in the first round with a walkaway right hand.

SMARTEST
Holmes: Larry was champion for six or seven years, he learned from Muhammad Ali.

STRONGEST
Mike Weaver: They called him “Hercules”, but I stopped him in the first round. The guys I was fearful of, I jumped on them and tried to take them out quick. He was very strong, and I was leery of Weaver. I went 12 rounds with him [in the rematch]. Witherspoon was strong.

BEST CHIN
Tyson: I hit Tyson with good shots. You had to hit him to be around.

BEST PUNCHER
Tyson: He knew the anatomy and where to hit a person. He knew the soft spots, like solar plexus, he knew the pressure points of a body. The next day, I was sore and it hurt.

BEST BOXING SKILLS
Holmes: He had good head movement, he was just experienced. He fought a lot of top guys: Ken Norton, Ali.

BEST OVERALL
Holmes: He was smart and very knowledgeable about boxing. Several guys got him in trouble and he was able to come back and beat them.

That's the article... thanks for posting it!

[JAB5239]

Little known fact:

Bone Crusher is also a college graduate!

I did happen to know that. Bobby Czyz is another fighter who was good but not great that was college educated. I believe he was studying to be a doctor, but could be mistaken. Either way BKM is right about these guys deserving respect for what they've done in the ring.

[Tatabanya]

Either way BKM is right about these guys deserving respect for what they've done in the ring.

Except when they get remembered as Tyson opponents, in that case they retain the bum status in spite of having been titlists for some alphabet organization.

Ironically, in Smith's case, he did fight like one vs Tyson. He threw ONE significant punch, at the end of the fight.

[Tatabanya]

I did happen to know that. Bobby Czyz is another fighter who was good but not great that was college educated. I believe he was studying to be a doctor, but could be mistaken.

Have you ever read this article?

https://projects.nj.com/investigatio...zyz/index.html

I myself remember when Czyz bragged about his IQ and being a member of Mensa in interviews. Years of alcohol abuse and repeated problems with the law made him end like this.

So much for presumed intelligence.