Wladimir Klitschko's Best Wins

[The Old LefHook]

Vlad was a scrub knocked cold several times in his prime by nobodies.

[BattlingNelson]

Vlad was a scrub knocked cold several times in his prime by nobodies.

Like Lummox.

[The Old LefHook]

Like Lummox.

Despite looking great from certain historical perspectives, we know they can both be KO't. Neither had nerve for being hit.

[JakeTheBoxer]

Despite looking great from certain historical perspectives, we know they can both be KO't. Neither had nerve for being hit.

It is boxing, you know. people get hurt.

[Bum squad]

David Haye for me. Back then Haye was prime and despite being slightly under sized, was still really dangerous but Wlad put on a master class that night an it was a near shut out. Lets be honest though the competition was pretty abysmal for several years after Lewis retired, the brothers aside.

[billeau2]

Bats is my boy... But I disagree about Vlad... don't think much of him. Compared to all the young tough fighters Lewis fought like Briggs, and guys like Morrison, Ruddock, Tua, to name a few, Vlad fought crap. The only fighter who sort of ranks as a real challenge was Peter and maybe Haye... But peter as more like Grant, who also fizzled...

I don't think much of Vlad, except that if Batts thinks much of him maybe I am missing something.

Also, watching tape of Liston and comparing it to Vlad? try it some time... Vlad clinches instead of fighting, flinches, throws his arms straight out, has not footwork, compare that... It tells you a lot.

lewis had some bad habits, but you do not see the same lack of mobility, flinching, and clinching.

Gives one an idea about how a champion prize fighter with excellent technical skills looks compared to today's evolved bunch when we see Liston, and even Liston's opponents! who hold guard steady, advance in an organized fashion, parry, counter, etc...

[Anthony342]

Bats is my boy... But I disagree about Vlad... don't think much of him. Compared to all the young tough fighters Lewis fought like Briggs, and guys like Morrison, Ruddock, Tua, to name a few, Vlad fought crap. The only fighter who sort of ranks as a real challenge was Peter and maybe Haye... But peter as more like Grant, who also fizzled...

I don't think much of Vlad, except that if Batts thinks much of him maybe I am missing something.

Also, watching tape of Liston and comparing it to Vlad? try it some time... Vlad clinches instead of fighting, flinches, throws his arms straight out, has not footwork, compare that... It tells you a lot.

lewis had some bad habits, but you do not see the same lack of mobility, flinching, and clinching.

Gives one an idea about how a champion prize fighter with excellent technical skills looks compared to today's evolved bunch when we see Liston, and even Liston's opponents! who hold guard steady, advance in an organized fashion, parry, counter, etc...

Plus it goes to show you what a trainer like Steward was able to do to hide all those faults in the ring and show Wlad how to protect that weak chin.

[billeau2]

Plus it goes to show you what a trainer like Steward was able to do to hide all those faults in the ring and show Wlad how to protect that weak chin.

ahhh....? Maybe so. What I see is basically really bad epoche for the division and a trainer telling a fighter to grab a ss. It is probably not that simple lol... But it just looks that way to me.

[BattlingNelson]

Bats is my boy... But I disagree about Vlad... don't think much of him. Compared to all the young tough fighters Lewis fought like Briggs, and guys like Morrison, Ruddock, Tua, to name a few, Vlad fought crap. The only fighter who sort of ranks as a real challenge was Peter and maybe Haye... But peter as more like Grant, who also fizzled...

I don't think much of Vlad, except that if Batts thinks much of him maybe I am missing something.

Also, watching tape of Liston and comparing it to Vlad? try it some time... Vlad clinches instead of fighting, flinches, throws his arms straight out, has not footwork, compare that... It tells you a lot.

lewis had some bad habits, but you do not see the same lack of mobility, flinching, and clinching.

Gives one an idea about how a champion prize fighter with excellent technical skills looks compared to today's evolved bunch when we see Liston, and even Liston's opponents! who hold guard steady, advance in an organized fashion, parry, counter, etc...

The short answer to you will be that you suffer from fatyank bias syndrome lol. Wlad didn’t fight that many famous yanks because the yanks wasn’t good enough and wasn’t that famous.

I don’t think much of Lewis myself which is because his big wins are vastly overrated because of the names. People forget the context for those wins. Furthermore Lewis was way to dirty for my liking. That holding and hitting strategy made me sick.

Whatever. Lewis and Wlad are to me both ranked around #10.

[billeau2]

The short answer to you will be that you suffer from fatyank bias syndrome lol. Wlad didn’t fight that many famous yanks because the yanks wasn’t good enough and wasn’t that famous.

I don’t think much of Lewis myself which is because his big wins are vastly overrated because of the names. People forget the context for those wins. Furthermore Lewis was way to dirty for my liking. That holding and hitting strategy made me sick.

Whatever. Lewis and Wlad are to me both ranked around #10.

I don't know... wasn't Lewis just as much a foreign commodity as Wlad? Neither man was a Fat Yank heavy weight. As far as who they fought... what great foreign fighter did Vlad beat? Sam Peter? lol.

As far as Lewis and for that matter Vlad's rating? Time has to pass... neither guy has cemented their particular legacy just yet.