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  • Marchegiano
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    #61
    Originally posted by QueensburyRules
    - -So Tubsy Lar buys the March 77 Ring and finds out he was first ranked for 76, so buzzed he buys the 78 rankings to find he weren't ever ranked in 77 when he first found out he was ranked is U Holy Grail?

    How about ring rankings from 66 published in 77?

    I'll try to be diplomatic here: All modern rankings use PREVIOUS results to update their ratings of the here and now publication date.

    Ie: moving from traditional a$$ backward rankings to face first rankings to properly understand the immediacy of the here and now.

    That insipid idioticracy is why Ring was circling the toilet before Oscar pulled them out to shine em up for credibility.

    Poor Tubsy never got to see where he was ranked in the year he was in at the moment...priceless of course just like this Quack Z thread!
    Was that during Bert Sugar's ownership?

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    • QueensburyRules
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      #62
      Originally posted by Marchegiano
      Was that during Bert Sugar's ownership?
      - -The rankings were the first ever in the history of boxing that made an attempt that was seen as a monumental undertaking because of the seriousness of Nat in manually sifting thru paper records.

      He and Tex Rickard who advised were so pumped to get them in publication that they never considered that timing lag, irrelevant as it turned when fans snatched up every Ring they could find.

      And so it became traditional ******ity passed down for generations without thought.

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      • JAB5239
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        #63
        Originally posted by QueensburyRules
        - -The rankings were the first ever in the history of boxing that made an attempt that was seen as a monumental undertaking because of the seriousness of Nat in manually sifting thru paper records.

        He and Tex Rickard who advised were so pumped to get them in publication that they never considered that timing lag, irrelevant as it turned when fans snatched up every Ring they could find.

        And so it became traditional ******ity passed down for generations without thought.
        Is this a fact, or your made up version of things? If it's a fact, please provide some proof.

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        • Bundana
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          #64
          Originally posted by QueensburyRules
          Poor Tubsy never got to see where he was ranked in the year he was in at the moment...priceless of course just like this Quack Z thread!
          How about if he bought, say, the September issue of the mag? With a couple of months delay, he would then be able to see, where he was ranked by the end of June (most likely).

          So if he bought the issues from April to December - he would be able to check how they rated him every month from January to September (if the rankings were 2 months behind real time) during the year he was in at the time.

          So yes, poor Tubsy was in fact able to se how he was ranked, at least for 9 of the 12 months, of the year he was in. If he wanted to see, how he was ranked in October, November and December... he would of course have had to wait for the rankings in the January, February and March issues of the following year.

          Should be easy to understand.
          Last edited by Bundana; 12-09-2020, 01:45 PM.

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          • JAB5239
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            #65
            Originally posted by Bundana
            How about if he bought, say, the September issue of the mag? With a couple of months delay, he would then be able to see, where he was ranked by the end of June (most likely).

            So if he bought the issues from April to December - he would be able to check how they rated him every month from January to September (if the rankings were 2 months behind real time) during the year he was in at the time.

            So yes, poor Tubsy was in fact able to se how he was ranked, at least for 9 of the 12 months, of the year he was in. If he wanted to see, how he was ranked in October, November and December... he would of course have had to wait for the rankings in the January, February and March issues of the following year.

            Should be easy to understand.
            Bundana Stop. You're making WAY to much sense!!

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            • Bundana
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              #66
              Originally posted by JAB5239
              Bundana Stop. You're making WAY to much sense!!
              I know... but I'm a very patient man!

              If he's really so lacking in knowledge, that he honestly doesn't get it... then I think the right thing to do, is for us to help him better himself.

              If, on the other hand, he's simply trolling us - then he's a cancer that ought to be removed (though I realize that Bat, unfortunately, doesn't have the authority to do so).

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              • The Old LefHook
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                #67
                Bunsy, a serious boxing discussion is an oxymoron.

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                • Bundana
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by The Old LefHook
                  Bunsy, a serious boxing discussion is an oxymoron.
                  Most of the time that is, sadly, true... I just wish it wasn't!

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                  • JAB5239
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by Bundana
                    I know... but I'm a very patient man!

                    If he's really so lacking in knowledge, that he honestly doesn't get it... then I think the right thing to do, is for us to help him better himself.

                    If, on the other hand, he's simply trolling us - then he's a cancer that ought to be removed (though I realize that Bat, unfortunately, doesn't have the authority to do so).
                    I on the on the other hand admittedly have little patience. But every section needs a kickball, and he's ours. You can pick your nose, but we can't pick who posts here, and that is to bad. I consider myself an informed boxing fan with good knowledge and experience. But truth be told, I learn more from many of you guys and hate when people try and muck it with trolling and lies. We're not all going to agree on everything, but let's have a modicum of respect whether we agree or disagree. And for the love of God, post your sources if you make a claim!! Just read it somewhere and don't remember? So what? It isn't the end of the world to be wrong when you're an adult. Unfortunately Queenie doesn't get this very simple concept.

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                    • The Old LefHook
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                      #70
                      To find a subject not turned over like hay numerous times by this and previous generations of posters is always a challenge. Neophytes of any period always require the same explanations and clarifications.

                      In Dempsey's day (and before) every circus had a strongman, and usually a boxer too, who were once in a while the same person. The strongmen made up their own events, which often involved lifting groups of people on a platform of some kind, even twirling the platform merry-go-round style with their feet as they lay on their backs. They would often attach living people instead of weights to their bars. Goerner the Mighty used to hold up a specially constructed bridge with his shoulders while a car full of people drove across. He turned pro strongman in 1920-21, but gave shows in Germany right into Hitler's reign until about 1937.

                      Strongmen also did what we now think of as traditional lifts, such as clean and jerk and presses & one-handed jerks et al, some of which earlier strongmen no doubt invented.

                      Another thing the crowds loved to see them do was juggle kettleweights weighing up 120 lbs. apiece.
                      Last edited by The Old LefHook; 12-09-2020, 05:27 PM.

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