A Ready to Roll James Toney vs Roy Jones

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  • QueensburyRules
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    #21
    Originally posted by _Rexy_
    Roy waited until Toney was on vacation to make the fight. If you watch the old fights Toney called out Jones after every fight he had at 168 and it took two years to make it.

    Yes I believe an in shape Toney beats Jones. It’s why RJJ didn’t rematch Toney when they were both at Heavyweight.
    - -Boozo, is it really U?

    So Two Ton had 2 yrs to get in shape yet, still made to look like a dunce is it?

    What, needed an extra 2 months of tutoring?

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      #22
      Originally posted by A.K
      I personally have told this story first hand but I’ll do it again. James took that fight off a Burger King extravaganza vacation 3 weeks out he barely trained.
      Are you saying that he took the fight on 3 weeks notice?

      Because that would be a lie.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Rockin'
        Not on that night he didn't...….....Rockin'
        Lol sure enough.

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          #24
          Originally posted by A.K
          I personally have told this story first hand but I’ll do it again. James took that fight off a Burger King extravaganza vacation 3 weeks out he barely trained.
          That may, or may not be... Perhaps Duran saw a stray dog before the second fight with Ray and it caused a deep existential crisis... so much so that he could not bare to go on and uttered "No Mas."

          We are allowed to say that perhaps Toney was not at his best. But we cannot rationalize ring performance to a great degree without creating a slippery slope. I am sympatheric, don't misunderstand me... Its why in the good ole days when guys like Maxie Rosenbloom fought a rival, they might fight five times, or so. We know that La Motta beat Ray Robinson and that Robinson usually won and can discount all the possible external factors affecting the fighters as coming out in the wash.

          Modern day fighting, and fighters like Jones and Mayweather particularly only gave so many bites at the apple. Toney is very proud of his penchent for fighting and should have really considered what would happen if he went in against Jones, less than fully prepared. Preparation for the fight is alas, part of the fight.

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          • IronDanHamza
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            #25
            It’s funny how the excuse for James Toney looking like he’d never boxed a day in his life when he was totally embarrassed and schooled by Roy Jones is that “he wasn’t prepared or in shape” (like that would be anyone’s fault but his own)

            So when exactly was James Toney “prepared and in shape” to compare this data?
            Last edited by IronDanHamza; 08-06-2020, 12:23 PM.

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              #26
              Originally posted by The Old LefHook
              They don't get it, Hammy. This place has been invaded by hicks & hacks from NSB since the so called pandemic struck.
              Does Hammy ever talk about any boxers other than Roy Jones Jr. and James Toney? I haven't seen that phenomenon.
              Last edited by BKM-; 08-06-2020, 06:42 PM.

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                #27
                Originally posted by BKM-
                Does Hammy every talk about any boxers other than Roy Jones Jr. and James Toney? I haven't seen that phenomenon.
                I like Montel Griffin too.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by IronDanHamza
                  I like Montel Griffin too.
                  How about a boxer not connected to those two.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by BKM-
                    How about a boxer not connected to those two.
                    I was going to say Reggie Johnson and now I’m stumped.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by BKM-
                      Does Hammy every talk about any boxers other than Roy Jones Jr. and James Toney? I haven't seen that phenomenon.
                      Hammy is a specialist. When he speaks, rooms grow quiet. He particularly has Toney dialed in.

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