The Big Four

[QueensburyRules]

Ring should have been left to die unfortunately. All you have left are writers who don’t understand the Ali era let alone those before him. The Ring used to be the boxing fans link to not only the present but the past. No longer.

- -Bitter be***eled over Ring is it now?

Meanwhile I'm working on a deal to buy the original footage of John L and Killrain for immaculate restoration.

While I search the dustbins of bbc for the original Sir 'Enerey vs Gaseous Cassius disaster.

[Ben Bolt]

I liked Nigel Collins’s The Ring. And one thing I liked was, that Dr. Margaret Goodman had a regular page during his editorship. The downsides of boxing were dared to discuss.

Before that, The Ring and other mags/sites, often referred to brain damaged boxers as “he speaks with a thick tongue”. It wasn’t obvious to every reader, what that meant.

Collins’s The Ring didn’t hide the fact, that lots of boxers have to pay a high price at the end.
Boxing is a brutal sport. Collins and Goodman were honest to say so.

[QueensburyRules]

I liked Nigel Collins’s The Ring. And one thing I liked was, that Dr. Margaret Goodman had a regular page during his editorship.
Boxing is a brutal sport. Collins and Goodman were honest to say so.

- -Something wrong with Goodman.

Same as Ferdie. No way I seek medical intervention from Ringside Docs unless I was on a stretcher unconscious.

[Ben Bolt]

- -Something wrong with Goodman.

Same as Ferdie.

True, I guess.
Sane doctors would never get involved in boxing. They want the sport banned.

[Waldenverney]

I think that it's important to have a website..

[HOUDINI563]

As much as I love the sports history....there is no doubt every punch that lands to the head rattles the brain in the skull. No getting around it. Over time, who knows how long, this does significant damage. Very few pro fighters do not get some form of dementia eventually.

[Willie Pep 229]

As much as I love the sports history....there is no doubt every punch that lands to the head rattles the brain in the skull. No getting around it. Over time, who knows how long, this does significant damage. Very few pro fighters do not get some form of dementia eventually.

Sorry I'm about to go off on a tangent.

I have this gut feeling that it's the endless sparing that does the greater damage.

The head gear and large gloves stop out-right concussions, but there lies the rub, it lets the fighter spar and take hundreds of 'softer' punches to the head, day in and day out, for years. That has got to have a negative effect on the brain.

No one would ever let someone else take the heel of their hand and smack it against their head 60 times a day, for three days a week, for three months, and then believe they were not being hurt.

But that's what sparing is, you wear just enough protection to make sure you can take many more punches.

The NFL Players Association has limited the number of full contact practice days a coach can call.

And don't get me started on 'gym wars'!

Any trainer, manager, or promoter who promotes, excites, or encourages a 'gym war' should be banned from the fight game. That's just abuse!

I think the long-term damage happens in the gym, not the fights themselves. The tragedies occur in the fights, but the sparing affects everyone over the long haul.

[HOUDINI563]

Absolutely. Any punch gym or otherwise rattles the brain. Even blocked blows may have enough concussive force to cause the brain to move about the skull.

I am so displeased with what the sport has become, a mockery of its one time greatness, that a ban of the sport I consider quite logical.

Alternatively a ban upon all the organizations that control the sport and instead government control. I don’t see any other recourse.

[QueensburyRules]

- -Guys like Greb and Langford fought so often against anyone that they didn't need much sparring or diet.

The problem they had was growing blindness not dissimilar to great composers, ie Beethoven suffering encroaching deafness.

Sam compensated by watching his opponent more discernible footwork before launching blind KO shots.

Beethoven could still keep his music in his head to compose some of his greatest works.

Humans indutably the most amazing critters of the animal kingdom.

[Anthony342]

What about this new TBRB I've heard about in the last year or two? They've gotten together and started ranking boxers in each weight class themselves, wanting to bring back the purity of boxing rankings, where the best fighters of each weight class are ranked, rather than ranking fighters by who gets paid off by a promoter or paying some kind of sanctioning fee.

https://www.tbrb.org/