Comments Thread For: Jamie Foxx Reveals: Mike Tyson Movie is Finally Moving Forward

[lion33lit]

I liked canibuss

Aggressive rap was always me

LL was a pop star

I didn't rate his flow much

Well said!! Everyone I ever grew up with, always said the same thing about L!

Aggressive rap does something to the brain that pop rap can NEVER do!

But on the other hand, pop rap does to CHICKS what aggressive rap could never do..lol..at least back in the day anyways..

Cardi B doing her thing though introducin’ some complexity for these younger chicks to appreciate. As you know, it ain’t just the message - more importantly the “flow.”

I miss those aggressive joints like you don’t know! M was was the last to fill me with hope....I can take or leave guys like Lamar and Chance.....just me. Maybe I need to bring it!! Lol.

[lion33lit]

I can understand your 'zero interest' but give credit where credit is do, that was great (maybe just good) promo work.

Tyson hooked us, prepping us for the Jamie Foxx announcement; it was nicely done.

I hope they avoid showing any ring action. The worst part of any boxing movie (to a real fight fan) are the boxing scenes.

IMO the best prize fight film I have seen is Ving Rhames in Don King, Only in America. It showed us/told us more about the world of boxing then the five Rocky films combined.

Also, no CGI, I would rather they used multiple actors to play the different aged 'Tyson(s)" - much like the Bob Dylan film did.

I think Will Smith did an exceptional job for Ali. He put in a lot of work for those sequences. Even James Toney said he could hit in those exchanges.

[*TonyMontana*]

Well said!! Everyone I ever grew up with, always said the same thing about L!

Aggressive rap does something to the brain that pop rap can NEVER do!

But on the other hand, pop rap does to CHICKS what aggressive rap could never do..lol..at least back in the day anyways..

Cardi B doing her thing though introducin’ some complexity for these younger chicks to appreciate. As you know, it ain’t just the message - more importantly the “flow.”

I miss those aggressive joints like you don’t know! M was was the last to fill me with hope....I can take or leave guys like Lamar and Chance.....just me. Maybe I need to bring it!! Lol.

Lamar is a good rapper he was the last person I was into really...check section 80

[Willie Pep 229]

I think Will Smith did an exceptional job for Ali. He put in a lot of work for those sequences. Even James Toney said he could hit in those exchanges.

Yes, that is so, and it has happened before -- James Cagney in Winner take All used the famed stuntman Harvey Parry as the opponent for the big fight. Parry was an AAU champion boxer and choreographed the fight scenes. He taught Cagney to box and they had real exchanges.

But why? Why would a recreation of any real fight be of interest to a fight fan?

It's why Seorsese (Raging Bull) walked away from the cliche 'big fight' plot line and created fight scenes in that surrealistic fashion; he used the ring action to make a point about its brutally. He didn't want to try to recreate realistic looking fights there's no drama in it.

[BKM-]

I think Will Smith did an exceptional job for Ali. He put in a lot of work for those sequences. Even James Toney said he could hit in those exchanges.

Will Smith did a terrible job in that movie, actually. One of the worst performances I've seen in a boxing movie, but then again that is to be expected from a Hollywood cornball who is so full of himself.

He looks nothing like Ali, doesn't sound anything like him and the accent was all wrong. I could go on.

R.Kelly did a better job being Ali in the music video.

[HOUDINI563]

The great pains they took choreographing the Ali Foreman fight I found so tedious. Every punch regarding the KO as an example perfectly copied in exacting detail.

[lion33lit]

No canniballistic rapist or a closeted homosexual is a better man than me. If you disagree, then my posts about Tython have had a far more severe effect on you than I ever could have imagined.




He got to his level of fame because of extreme violence, **** cases and tons of other crimes, de****able behavior on and off for decades.

Even with his boxing popularity, a very large percentage of viewers weren't watching him fight for his technique and skills, they simply wanted to see him severely beat and humiliate overmatched opponents.

There's no positive reasons for his fame. Yes, even today. "Memes" are what keeping him in the spotlight. Like this nonsense:

humiliating himself and the sport for a cheap buck. Catering to young fools with that podcast. I bet you think he's an 'OG gangsta' with the way he talks and smokes weed.



Well cong**** to Mike Tyson for having people with an IQ below 80 be impressed by a couple of videos of a middle aged former fighter who hasn't quit a fight for 15 years, concoct edited videos trying to tease a 'comeback' as if he has a 1% shot against the #500 ranked HW in the world. Yeah that's why he's 'popular and respected' today.

Sorry for this book, but you are buggin’!! Back in the day guys AND gals tuned in to see Tyson’s SKILLS and aggression come together in a controlled form of violence!

The same way chicks tuned in to see Oscar in his heyday(?) is the same way they tuned in to see Mike, he may not have had Oscars looks, but he sure brought the excitement that brought people of every age together - not to mention the high rollers.

Mike was a dichotomy, not only did he have boxing skills, he was equally sensitive with a childish rage & immaturity, but he unwittingly had this open door policy to his life that was intriguing as hell!! Who could forget the Barbers Walters interview?!

Mikes not so popular now for obvious reasons. And those recent videos are just mostly good muscle memory making him look good. It goes to show, he WAS dedicated at one point.

But for you, a fan of boxing fan, that posts on this boxing sight, saying people only tuned in to see him lose? Is incredible! You’re wrong.

Mayweather generated that same Mike appeal. Boxers like these two will ALWAYS have that appeal. It’s a given. They’re too awkward & reckless in real life with that exceptional other thing everyone wants to see.


Here’s a corny line. EVERY heart is automatically drawn to vulnerable conditions of the “other” heart - especially when it’s inside the little frame of a heavyweight that’s exciting as hell to watch!

His crimes were part of the intrigue because he walked into every indiscretion like a dumb bird. it’s why we surf the net to “find out” the “truth” behind “certain” celebrities - even if we’re NOT into the celebrity stuff.

To a lesser degree it’s why we dig a good song, and play it over & over again. We can relate to it, or want to relate to it.

Tim Tebow, with his ****** convictions and his football IQ, had people tuning in to watch him play football, despite a lot of sports commentators and “experts” incessantly criticizing his game - but fans could care less. They tuned in.

They tuned in because Tim was confident, bold and he gave the Bible an uncanny realness to it, by somehow making people believe God was coming through for him on the football field!?

Vulnerable public figures will always make their way to the forefront of the publics imagination - it’s a given! The public will never get enough. Paris Hilton even had her time.

You can criticize Mikes skill level all you want - but he DID have skills that quickly eroded from neglect. Chasin’ coochee while flaunting his popularity in clubs and eventually placing blame on everything & everyone but himself turned him into a relic of the early past.

Whether fans wanted to see him win or lose - they made SURE to watch. And it’s the reason why many want to see flashes of his old self NOW in those exhibitions. He brought excitement!!

Michael Jordan could NOW talk about joining Ice Cubes 3 on 3 tournaments, and I assure you - EVERYONE would tune in just to get a glimpse of the past great. Mike like Mike had something special there.

[lion33lit]

Yes, that is so, and it has happened before -- James Cagney in Winner take All used the famed stuntman Harvey Parry as the opponent for the big fight. Parry was an AAU champion boxer and choreographed the fight scenes. He taught Cagney to box and they had real exchanges.

But why? Why would a recreation of any real fight be of interest to a fight fan?

It's why Seorsese (Raging Bull) walked away from the cliche 'big fight' plot line and created fight scenes in that surrealistic fashion; he used the ring action to make a point about its brutally. He didn't want to try to recreate realistic looking fights there's no drama in it.

I get what you’re saying, and it makes sense to me. But I’ll never forget what those behind me kept repeating when I was sitting in the movie theater watching Rocky IV.

When Rocky obviously”..lol..started to win the fight against Drago, there was this one guy behind me yelling to his friend - in this crazy impassioned way, “I told you, I told you, I told you, just because he’s smaller didn’t mean he wasn’t coming back - I told you!!” I laughed to myself because I know it was choreographed (deep down I know they knew that too..lol). So I also realized that there are those out there who take this choreographed stuff on a whole other personal level.

They see and become inspired by the writer/producers vision. And that’s not a bad deal if you can somehow bring the audience into your make believe world. I thoroughly enjoyed the movie back then, but I’d be hard pressed to sit through it now. Drago now to me was HUGE..lol. in real life I think he would’ve killed Rocky! The older me agrees with your points, but the younger me would like to see Spider Man somehow outmaneuver Hulk and tie him up with his webbing....if you know what I mean.

Sylvester Stallone is one of those great minds - if he can take you on that make believe pugilistic voyage - then why not?

Again, for the “real” fights that are being done over? I get your point wholeheartedly. I would give it a pass if a make believe fight could now be highlighted for a more learning experience, for the more discerning eye to “get into” a biography of some sort. The Phantom Punch Ali threw, now from a different angle can now be highlighted, maybe?? Come to think of it, I’m sick of Ali’s regurgitated biographies anyway..lol

Anyways I agree with Scorcese and Stallone keeping the “surrealistic fashion” drama fights (I sound like Golovkin here) coming, they’re definitely more fun to watch...

That James Cagney was one helluva actor. I remember when he hit that lady (I think he did it with a muffin in his hand??..lol). I couldn’t believe that was on TV when I was a kid. Traumatic for me! ��

[lion33lit]

Will Smith did a terrible job in that movie, actually. One of the worst performances I've seen in a boxing movie, but then again that is to be expected from a Hollywood cornball who is so full of himself.

He looks nothing like Ali, doesn't sound anything like him and the accent was all wrong. I could go on.

R.Kelly did a better job being Ali in the music video.

Whoa! Easy guy, I was only referring to the fight scenes. I think he did an excellent job recreating exchanges. He worked hard to do just that. Unfortunately, I couldn’t get into that “movie” for many of the reasons you mentioned. Will is a good actor and it’s the reason why Ali handpicked him for the job. One major problem is that there are a million and one biographies on Ali hovering throughout the boxing world hemisphere. Plus Ali did his own autobiography starring himself!!

Will Smith probably should’ve politely declined, telling Ali “Nah, you good, you don’t need me adding to what’s already out there.” Will Smith felt an obligation to do it, not so much a desire - it seems that way anyway, from his interviews. I’m sure though, some folks got out of it (the movie) what me & you didn’t.

[Willie Pep 229]

I have no opinion on Smith as Ali but I thought that the feature film was simply the wrong (too short) medium to tell Ali's story.

It should have been made as an HBO mini series; too many important events were given only one scene and it was left to the audience to fill in the necessary back stories themselves.

This worked find with those familiar with Ali's story, but for most of the uneducated younger generation there was no chance to build the necessary intensity that surrounded the events as they unfolded.

The film jumped from one major event to another; Ali's life lived too large to fit into a two hour film.