Where Did Boxing Originate From?

[Rusty Tromboni]

It's clear to anyone who read my post you didn't. All your bull**** is already addressed, you're just wrong.

Oh look at that!

A creepy kid with Asperger's. Right on cue!

Can the tax payers in your school district get refunds?

[Marchegiano]

Oh look at that!

A creepy kid with Asperger's. Right on cue!

Can the tax payers in your school district get refunds?

Being deflective doesn't change the fact you already look ****** and lazy.

[Rusty Tromboni]

Being deflective doesn't change the fact you already look ****** and lazy.

I regret saying you have no friends. I'm sure you and the lunch lady get along great. I'm sure she loves your crazy rants and even says you're "cool".

Do you have a sticker collection you want to share with us?

[Anthony342]

From people wanting to settle grudges by beating the crap out of each other with their fists, then developing a technique to do so.

[QueensburyRules]

- -When the Cebeza de Vaca Spanish expedition wrecked in Floriduh after being savaged by the native proto Seminoles, the couple dozen survivors built a large raft set adrift in the Gulf currents.

Several storms later the half dozen remaining washed up on today's Galveston Island Texas barely alive. A pair of local buck naked tribes split them up to rebuild them for enslavement. An amazingly convoluted story follows, but Cebeza noted that any of the men in dispute would settle with fist fights or sometimes sticks if part of the agreement, ie rules of engagement.

These are heirs of the original Russian ice bridge to America still filled with those native north Asian heirs dating 10,000 to 50,000 years ago in climatic waves.

In short, approx another 50,000 yrs removed from the time H Sapiens started their migration out of N Africa unless Asians evolved separately, a theory that has yet to be disproven because Of the lack of archeological and anthropological exploration in these remote regions.

[billeau2]

Boxing and Wrestling originated in the British Isles. It's that simple, and pretty ridiculous that anyone would object to that fact. Sure, martial arts emerge independently in pretty much any society, particularly Wrestling, but out modern sports are direct descendants of landrace systems in use in Ireland and Britain. Again, not a ****** question, but this should be pretty obvious.

*Where it gets fuzzier is where you trace lineage from there. It's obvious that Boxing existed on both islands. While the Irish began to more definitively dominate and relocated the sport's epicenter to America, the English became more invested in claiming the sport's history. Rounders is the Irish sport that evolved into baseball. Hockey is Irish, but was also being played in England before settlers reached America. While Football is mostly English but somewhat Irish. Cricket, polo, soccer, tennis, these are English sports.

Ridiculous things like linking it to Greco-Roman combat. Or even claimining James Figg to be Father of the Sport are betond ridiculous, and don't appeal to anyone with a High School diploma.

But those tales definitely appeal to creep people with Asperger's.

So... your proof is because you say so and M's proof is extensive research...think about it Trombone!! Not a good look lol.

[billeau2]

- -When the Cebeza de Vaca Spanish expedition wrecked in Floriduh after being savaged by the native proto Seminoles, the couple dozen survivors built a large raft set adrift in the Gulf currents.

Several storms later the half dozen remaining washed up on today's Galveston Island Texas barely alive. A pair of local buck naked tribes split them up to rebuild them for enslavement. An amazingly convoluted story follows, but Cebeza noted that any of the men in dispute would settle with fist fights or sometimes sticks if part of the agreement, ie rules of engagement.

These are heirs of the original Russian ice bridge to America still filled with those native north Asian heirs dating 10,000 to 50,000 years ago in climatic waves.

In short, approx another 50,000 yrs removed from the time H Sapiens started their migration out of N Africa unless Asians evolved separately, a theory that has yet to be disproven because Of the lack of archeological and anthropological exploration in these remote regions.

Ok in all seriousness here: In India, Despite a tradition of philosophy that dwarfs the West in depth of arguments, and many other such things, most scholars consider Philosophy to be a Western Pedigree originating when the Greeks put fourth reasoned explanations for phenomena considered metaphysical, prior to using rational and empirical methods for
describing such phenomena. This never sit well with me... I even got into it with profs as a Master's student.

The thing is, in some ways, one can say that what we call philosophy is distinct from other modes of inquiry that use the same principles of discernment. I can live with that.

I think what M is talking about is systems of fist fighting that came out of a similar tradition of personal conquest, rules, methods and a common culture. Much like my example of philosophy he is not saying that others did not employ methods and have contests... He is saying that those employed in Greece show themselves to be a harbinger to what we call boxing in our culture.

I tend to look at his analysis as exceptional in its detail, and when I observe it disspationatly he is on high ground when describing ********ic ideals and the individual... Greece was very similar to us! where else but in these two places could one say "every man for himself" and "no man is an island" and not contradict oneself? To say these unique drives formed
what we know of boxing makes sense.

The weakest part of the analysis is something you raise, and what I object to in the pedigree of the world Philosophy. Certainly other cultures did these things and probably had similar ideals... Its a fine line to walk but I believe you and M are both correct.

[Rusty Tromboni]

So... your proof is because you say so and M's proof is extensive research...think about it Trombone!! Not a good look lol.

We get. You've clearly established critical thinking isn't your thing. And you have no time for facts. My question is, why do you have to pop up at every given opportunity to remind us? You never heard the expression "beating a dead horse"?

Besudes, shouldn't you be providing us with the Play-by-Play of Serafino Garcia's victory over Billy Conn? A lot of people would love to hear it! That was the one refereed by Max Bauer, right?

And not just a play by play, I want inaccurate analogies to the following to cover for you lack of Boxing knowledge:

- Pavlov's Dogs
- Schrodinger's Cat
- The ass Joseph tied to a tree before walking to Jerusalem
- And the time you and the rest of The Warriors cleared all the **** from "da New Yoik Suba'way"!


If it's good, we'll invite you back to tell us about the time Carmen Basillio beat Gene Fullmer, and Joey Maxim meat Joe Louis.

I know that's a lot of pressure, but don't blow it!

[Rusty Tromboni]

Ok in all seriousness here: In India, Despite a tradition of philosophy that dwarfs the West in depth of arguments, and many other such things, most scholars consider Philosophy to be a Western Pedigree originating when the Greeks put fourth reasoned explanations for phenomena considered metaphysical, prior to using rational and empirical methods for
describing such phenomena. This never sit well with me... I even got into it with profs as a Master's student.

The thing is, in some ways, one can say that what we call philosophy is distinct from other modes of inquiry that use the same principles of discernment. I can live with that.

I think what M is talking about is systems of fist fighting that came out of a similar tradition of personal conquest, rules, methods and a common culture. Much like my example of philosophy he is not saying that others did not employ methods and have contests... He is saying that those employed in Greece show themselves to be a harbinger to what we call boxing in our culture.

I tend to look at his analysis as exceptional in its detail, and when I observe it disspationatly he is on high ground when describing ********ic ideals and the individual... Greece was very similar to us! where else but in these two places could one say "every man for himself" and "no man is an island" and not contradict oneself? To say these unique drives formed
what we know of boxing makes sense.

The weakest part of the analysis is something you raise, and what I object to in the pedigree of the world Philosophy. Certainly other cultures did these things and probably had similar ideals... Its a fine line to walk but I believe you and M are both correct.

The genius of New York City's Public School system on display: while other regimes teach their children what to think, NYC DOE teaches kids NOT to think.

[billeau2]

We get. You've clearly established critical thinking isn't your thing. And you have no time for facts. My question is, why do you have to pop up at every given opportunity to remind us? You never heard the expression "beating a dead horse"?

Besudes, shouldn't you be providing us with the Play-by-Play of Serafino Garcia's victory over Billy Conn? A lot of people would love to hear it! That was the one refereed by Max Bauer, right?

And not just a play by play, I want inaccurate analogies to the following to cover for you lack of Boxing knowledge:

- Pavlov's Dogs
- Schrodinger's Cat
- The ass Joseph tied to a tree before walking to Jerusalem
- And the time you and the rest of The Warriors cleared all the **** from "da New Yoik Suba'way"!


If it's good, we'll invite you back to tell us about the time Carmen Basillio beat Gene Fullmer, and Joey Maxim meat Joe Louis.



I know that's a lot of pressure, but don't blow it!

Unfortunately your established facts Trombone... They may come from your lack of reading comprehension, but they are yours never the less.

Facts and criticial thinking, like what was presented before you put fourth an unsubstantiated jargon Trombone... Par for the course. I honestly wonder if you know what a fact even is!

Yeah I make sure when you post nonsense I call you on it... Most certainly.