Razor Ruddock vs Earnie Shavers

[Tatabanya]

I think this fight would have ended with both fighters badly cut.

Seriously: who would win?

[therealpugilist]

I think this fight would have ended with both fighters badly cut.

Seriously: who would win?

ruddock at his best was a bit more sturdy, fights with tyson kilt his punch resistance there after was never the same...prior was on like a 17 ko streak.....Shavers hit hard but had crappy stamina, cut and also had a shaky chin....either he got you or you got him



Gotta go with razor on this one

[PBR Streetgang]

I think this fight would have ended with both fighters badly cut.

Seriously: who would win?

Shavers was a bit before me so I've only ever seen his fights after the fact. I remember Ruddock from my youth, the father of a grade school classmate of mine was part of his management/promotional team.

I'd probably go Ruddock. Unless Shavers gets him early, I see Ruddock weathering some early exchanges and bombing out a fatigued Shavers in the mid rounds. Ruddock had some size to him (I think around 6'3" and 230) and he wasn't a bad boxer. Between Shavers uppercuts and Razors left hook uppercuts there would be some head snapping going on until some got dropped.

Ironically enough, I just watched Ruddock/Dokes yesterday. Vicious KO.

[Tatabanya]

Ironically enough, I just watched Ruddock/Dokes yesterday. Vicious KO.

Right, that was bad.

To this day, I think that Lennox Lewis' best win is his knockout of Ruddock.

[PBR Streetgang]

Right, that was bad.

To this day, I think that Lennox Lewis' best win is his knockout of Ruddock.

If I'm not mistaken, Ruddock was the favorite in that fight. It's easy to forget how scary Ruddock was back in the day. He out Tyson through war. You know, Lewis has a helluva resume, I recently looked at his record and saw all the names he fought and KO'd.

[Tatabanya]

If I'm not mistaken, Ruddock was the favorite in that fight. It's easy to forget how scary Ruddock was back in the day. He out Tyson through war. You know, Lewis has a helluva resume, I recently looked at his record and saw all the names he fought and KO'd.

Yes, after I saw Ruddock giving Tyson hell I was picking him to win against Lewis, but the latter just disintegrated him. That was the beginning of the down-sliding for Ruddock, ended by getting knocked out by Tommy Morrison while he was about to win...

I was never a fan of Lewis, but one must give him some credit for what he achieved. I don't rank him as high as many do, but he sure was an excellent fighter. I remember being among the very few predicting the annihilation of over-hyped Michael Grant before he fought Lewis... I even picked the correct round. Too bad I was not betting at that time!

[PBR Streetgang]

I remember being among the very few predicting the annihilation of over-hyped Michael Grant before he fought Lewis... I even picked the correct round. Too bad I was not betting at that time!

I was never a Michael Grant fan, always felt like he was too hyped up on his rise to contention. When Golota nearly decapitated him, I was elated and was so mad as I saw the Polish fighter just wilt under the pressure and ultimately quit. Even though I didn't like Lewis all that much I wanted him to expose Grant.

He blew him out in that fight; I haven't seen it since I watched it live on TV but I remember Lewis used some questionable tactics like holding Grant's head and hitting him with hooks or uppercuts. After that I felt for Grant when he was blasted out by McCline and Guinn.

[billeau2]

I like it... Two guys who were somewhat underrated. Lets talk Ernie first: Big dumb slow oaf...Hardly! The man was able to impose himself on some of the best and when a puncher can do that they can win fights, even fights that they lost, they could have won!

Shavers beats Norton, has Ali and the Easton Assassin on ***** Street. That speaks to a guy who could fight at the very best level. Punchers often don't win as many fights as boxers... They have to connect enough times during a bout to have a chance for the KO. the truth is, in any given night at his prime the Acorn could be a
tough customer for anyone!

Razor was a two handed fighter in the beginning, and had quickness and power with a decent chin. Later in his career he fought using the left hook and coming in and it often looked like he was not able to fight from the outside... Especially against Tyson.

I think Shavers could catch Razor but probably what would happen is Razor would grind out a decision in the later rounds coming on strong. Ruddock has a good sense of how to use his mass, and Ernie, while being a strong guy as well, did not want to get into such a situation where he could not punch from a decent range.

The Acorn could find a way to beat YOung, because he could find a way to punch, but faltered against Cobb for example, who could tussle inside.

[Tatabanya]

When Golota nearly decapitated him, I was elated and was so mad as I saw the Polish fighter just wilt under the pressure and ultimately quit.

Ah, don't tell me about that. I consider Golota the biggest wasted potential in the history of HWs, I had predicted great things for him even after his first disqualification vs Bowe. But when he got thrown out the second time as well, I started losing hope - the guy just didn't want to show he had a functioning brain.

The second biggest wasted potential after Golota? Tyson himself. Had he kept his focus, he would have dominated the scene for a decade.

[PBR Streetgang]

Ah, don't tell me about that. I consider Golota the biggest wasted potential in the history of HWs........The second biggest wasted potential after Golota? Tyson himself....

Man, that's another great topic right there. Wasted potential. In heavyweights, you have Golota, Tyson and also Ike Ibeabuchi. I would have loved to see what he was capable of. I remember his fights against Tua and Byrd....dude was impressive.

I agree about Golota and Tyson. Both had so much skill and could have accomplished so much more had it not been for their shortcomings between their ears. I don't mean that as an indictment on their intelligence but both had emotional or psychological hurdles they couldn't overcome.