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  • #21
    Originally posted by Dr. Z View Post

    The sir name was Scottish, which could mean he was the best Scottish heavyweight ever. It would not take much to be the #1 Scottish heavyweight of all time. I myself can not name a good one. He doesn't look native American, though he defectively had some native American blood as did Jack Dempsey. Like 25% of less. Most African American people have roughly 20% of white DNA .
    LOL McCarty's Father was believed to be half Irish/ half Native American ! Scottish My Arse! His Mother was Irish
    As a general rule MAcarty indicates Scottish. McCarty Irish. Both names mean Son OF.
    Defectively ? Was he Defective? You definitely are!
    It amuses me to see McCarty portrayed as this noble young cowboy,his manager having got him rigged out in leather chaps and stetson for photo shoots. McCarty wasn't some pure young lad.After marrying young , he deserted his wife and daughter and she was forced to work in kitchens and saloons to support herself and their child McCarty was sued for maintenance on more than one occasion.

    ps Its SURNAME !lol
    Last edited by Ivich; 06-19-2023, 08:23 AM.

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    • #22
      Originally posted by Ivich View Post

      Dempsey was the worlds champion. McCarty an unknown outside the US and Canada .
      Johnson offered to defend his title in Canada which, last time I was there,[in Toronto,] is outside the jurisdiction of the US.

      The French Federation stripped Johnson of his title for 3 weeks, on the grounds that he was a convicted felon,

      I posted their statement from Victor Dreyer yesterday!
      When the International Boxing Union failed to follow suit, the French Federation reversed their decision and stripped Langford whom they had awarded their version of the crown to for his win over Jeannette.
      Langford then fought Mathew Curran in the same arena he had fought Jeannette,it was NOT billed as a title fight of any kind,because of course it wasn't.
      Seems I know a bit more about it than you do Forum's Fool .lol

      07 May 1914 - JOHNSON CHAMPION. - Trove (nla.gov.au)
      - - You regurgitating the same old mush everyone already knows about Sam.

      I posted the article stating Johnson was requesting his US judge in his unsettled criminal case to give him immunity so he could fight McCarty. He did not say where, but clearly it's a moot point because Luck tragically passed a few days later.

      Luck would have to hire bodyguards just to keep the youthful French women from swamping him.

      You like the guy who just learned his ABCs and 123s thinking he's now some kind of genius.

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      • #23
        Originally posted by Ivich View Post

        LOL McCarty's Father was believed to be half Irish/ half Native American ! Scottish My Arse! His Mother was Irish
        As a general rule MAcarty indicates Scottish. McCarty Irish. Both names mean Son OF.
        Defectively ? Was he Defective? You definitely are!
        It amuses me to see McCarty portrayed as this noble young cowboy,his manager having got him rigged out in leather chaps and stetson for photo shoots. McCarty wasn't some pure young lad.After marrying young , he deserted his wife and daughter and she was forced to work in kitchens and saloons to support herself and their child McCarty was sued for maintenance on more than one occasion.

        ps Its SURNAME !lol
        - - Native Americans often take on local surnames. Jim Thorpe was as Indian as it gets, but not his Indian Surname.

        Luck's father did a crisp business as a native American medicine man and had a retinue of native Americans in support.

        Need to shaaadup and stop rattlin' that last BB you got before you lose it.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

          - - Native Americans often take on local surnames. Jim Thorpe was as Indian as it gets, but not his Indian Surname.

          Luck's father did a crisp business as a native American medicine man and had a retinue of native Americans in support.

          Need to shaaadup and stop rattlin' that last BB you got before you lose it.
          White Eagle as he styled himself ,was not more than half Native American,and may actually have had none of their blood running through his veins. He sold snake oil Lute took care of the snakes in the act and his sister Hazel performed "Native American dances".

          Why you assume others know less than you is a conundrum ,because you invariably post a load of unsupported false hoods!
          .Now why don't you stop being a complete ARSE?

          Your schtick may have been funny a decade ago ,but I can assure you ,it's just a tired out ,boring routine now.
          Last edited by Ivich; 06-20-2023, 11:24 AM.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

            - - You regurgitating the same old mush everyone already knows about Sam.

            I posted the article stating Johnson was requesting his US judge in his unsettled criminal case to give him immunity so he could fight McCarty. He did not say where, but clearly it's a moot point because Luck tragically passed a few days later.

            Luck would have to hire bodyguards just to keep the youthful French women from swamping him.

            You like the guy who just learned his ABCs and 123s thinking he's now some kind of genius.
            Johnson wired Burns proposing a fight with McCarty in Canada,its a matter of public record,I'm an average poster,but like most here, compared to you, we are geniuses!

            You didnt even know the reason the French stripped Johnson of his title,or why they back tracked on it so hastily, .
            Last edited by Ivich; 06-20-2023, 12:02 PM.
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            • #26
              Originally posted by Ivich View Post
              White Eagle as he styled himself ,was not more than half Native American,and may actually have had none of their blood running through his veins. He sold snake oil Lute took care of the snakes in the act and his sister Hazel performed "Native American dances".

              Why you assume others know less than you is a conundrum ,because you invariably post a load of unsupported false hoods!
              .Now why don't you stop being a complete ARSE?

              Your schtick may have been funny a decade ago ,but I can assure you ,it's just a tired out ,boring routine now.
              - - Native Americans kidnapped children and young girls of all races to adopt into their tribes. It's the history of tribal peoples from the dawn of time.

              The story of Quana Parker who was the son of white girl absconded by Commanche Chief Nocona. Quana was raised Comanche and was their last Great Chief, but Quana Parker was the newspaper name so the public could fully know his story. The tribe knew him by his Indian name and he was taught some English by his mother.

              Give it up. I don't try to tell you Britsh History or what tea set to have with your crumpets because I ain't that ******.

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              • #27
                Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

                - - Native Americans kidnapped children and young girls of all races to adopt into their tribes. It's the history of tribal peoples from the dawn of time.

                The story of Quana Parker who was the son of white girl absconded by Commanche Chief Nocona. Quana was raised Comanche and was their last Great Chief, but Quana Parker was the newspaper name so the public could fully know his story. The tribe knew him by his Indian name and he was taught some English by his mother.

                Give it up. I don't try to tell you Britsh History or what tea set to have with your crumpets because I ain't that ******.
                Quanah mot Quana a derivative of Kwana was a war chief of the Kawani a branch of the Comanche tribe his mother Cynthia had been abducted , [not absconded,] as a child by the Nokoni. You can't get anything right can you?lol

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Ivich View Post
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                  Quanah mot Quana a derivative of Kwana was a war chief of the Kawani a branch of the Comanche tribe his mother Cynthia had been abducted , [not absconded,] as a child by the Nokoni. You can't get anything right can you?lol
                  - - General consensus is you arguing about how sharp is the point on your numbskull. The McCartys considered themselves native Americans.

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by QueensburyRules View Post

                    - - General consensus is you arguing about how sharp is the point on your numbskull. The McCartys considered themselves native Americans.
                    Oh you have spoken to them have you? lol What people consider themselves is immaterial to what they actually are.
                    You really aren't interested in boxing per se are you? You just want to try and elicit a reaction from other posters,its like a Pavlovian reflex with you.
                    Itching powder in human form.lol

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by Ivich View Post

                      Oh you have spoken to them have you? lol What people consider themselves is immaterial to what they actually are.
                      You really aren't interested in boxing per se are you? You just want to try and elicit a reaction from other posters,its like a Pavlovian reflex with you.
                      Itching powder in human form.lol
                      - - I've seen hamsters with more IQ gravitas than you. Luck was steeped in Native American culture whether you accept it or not.

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