31 yr old Fury vs 31 yr old Ali

[billeau2]

It's funny how you plead facts then peddle unsubstantiated opinion.


Ali was 29 when he lost to Frazier. 31 when he lost to Norton. 34 when he list to Young. His prime was clearly spent in the ring

(Which is unusual in Boxing, many fighters better than Ali never had so many years to work with. )

If you think Frazier was ever the same after the FOTC Boxing isn't your sport. If you think abandoning Clancy for Futch was a good idea your thoughts are on par with a man who was suffering severe CTE.

You mean the opinions you just atributed to me? I never made any statement about futch or clancey and what I think. I also never said anything about what prime was for regarding Ali and frazier and their fight besides: "they were still great enough to have a real contest in the ring.

Your responding to your own thoughts and sticking me in there as a foil... Im flattered but these are your ideas not mine.

[QueensburyRules]

So what?

By that standard there's never been a better fighter than Khaosi Galaxy

Your boy toy Langford never even held a championship. And lost every match he took against every prime fighter his own size.

- -Sammy held a title but chose not to defend it sorta like U boy toy.

U tooting trumpets don't cut it.

[Rusty Tromboni]

- -Sammy held a title but chose not to defend it sorta like U boy toy.

U tooting trumpets don't cut it.

I'll take your word for it. We all know you've had your lips on lots of " trumpets" over the years.


Do any of those men come visit you in the nursing home? You think they even remeber your name?

[Rusty Tromboni]

You mean the opinions you just atributed to me? I never made any statement about futch or clancey and what I think. I also never said anything about what prime was for regarding Ali and frazier and their fight besides: "they were still great enough to have a real contest in the ring.

Your responding to your own thoughts and sticking me in there as a foil... Im flattered but these are your ideas not mine.

Yup. Just like i expected, when i confronted you with facts contrary to your assertions , you pursued a tangential argument.




I hope come visit us on Earth some day. It's actually a nice place.

[Nash out]

Fury wouldn't just beat Ali, he'd make it look easy. Fury rises for the big fights. Best three performances of his career. Wlad, Wilder 1 and 2, no coincidence his three biggest fights. I mentioned this as I was prepared for some idiot coming along and mentioning Wallin winning 3 rounds. The Fury that beat Wilder would knock out Wallin in about 15 seconds.

[billeau2]

Fury wouldn't just beat Ali, he'd make it look easy. Fury rises for the big fights. Best three performances of his career. Wlad, Wilder 1 and 2, no coincidence his three biggest fights. I mentioned this as I was prepared for some idiot coming along and mentioning Wallin winning 3 rounds. The Fury that beat Wilder would knock out Wallin in about 15 seconds.

Wallin never did anything against Fury... When Fury was cut he managed the ring and Wallin was unable to capitolize at all. Cuts might mean a punch was succesful, could also be the angle, etc, there are a lot of ways someone gets cut. But Fury managed the situation.

[billeau2]

Yup. Just like i expected, when i confronted you with facts contrary to your assertions , you pursued a tangential argument.




I hope come visit us on Earth some day. It's actually a nice place.

I get it...everyone here is an idiot except you. And somehow Ali's prime has to do with Frazier's situation. Let me break it down one more time:

When you take an athlete's prime years and interject a situation where they cannot participate in their sport, you affect their legacy...That would be a fact. And this has nothng to do with what Frazier went through, etc.

Regarding Wilder: Because Gil Clancey has something to say about George Foreman does not make a case for why Foreman, with a career fighting in what was perhaps the most robust heavyweight division ever, and being a top dog, should be compared to a flawed fighter, who may yet turn out to be a great fighter... But is hardly comprable.

You go on inuendos, and triangle type digressions Rusty. I say look at who Foreman fought, and look at the tape and make a list. Foreman can do: a,b,c, etc. Wilder Can do: a,b,c, etc.

[Nash out]

Wallin never did anything against Fury... When Fury was cut he managed the ring and Wallin was unable to capitolize at all. Cuts might mean a punch was succesful, could also be the angle, etc, there are a lot of ways someone gets cut. But Fury managed the situation.

I know he didn't. Without the cut the fight would have had no drama at all. Some people try and make out that Wallin won 5-6 rounds. I gave him maybe 2. I thought he looked decent enough where I would like to see him again, maybe fight someone like Takam.

And the Cunningham knockdown often gets brought up. He was young, naive and walked into a flush shot. It happens. His chin and recovery is elite, just like the rest of him. ATG.

[Rusty Tromboni]

I get it...everyone here is an idiot except you. And somehow Ali's prime has to do with Frazier's situation. Let me break it down one more time:

When you take an athlete's prime years and interject a situation where they cannot participate in their sport, you affect their legacy...That would be a fact. And this has nothng to do with what Frazier went through, etc.

You said Ali didn't have a prime. I provided the evidence that he did.

You should also realize, as a Boxing fan, that many greats didn't enjoy a "prime".

Again, these are facts. You're spouting opinion.

[Rusty Tromboni]

And the Cunningham knockdown often gets brought up. He was young, naive and walked into a flush shot. It happens. His chin and recovery is elite, just like the rest of him. ATG.

That punch had more mustard on it than any punch Ali or Foreman ever took. We honestly don't know how they would've responded.

Look at the effect of Frazier's OHR on Ali in the rematch. Or the punch that Mushroom Head dropped Foreman with.

Besides Fury was off balance.


He'd **** any 70's Heavyweight. Vitali is the only fighter I'd pick to last the distance against him, but it might be a career-shortening beatdown.