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Bowe v Frazier?
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Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni View PostI feel like this is the safe bet.
Bowe is terribly overrated, but there's no denying that he was a big man who was tremendous on the inside.
He was no Foreman, but he was closer to him than he was to Mathis. Somewhere between Ali of FOTC and Ali of the Rematch - ironic, because the worse version of Ali beat Frazier.
I also don't think Bowe goes down that easy. Sure, when he wasn;t winning he kjust kinda stood there and took punishment. But he wasn't a Julian Jackson type.
Since Frazier lacked real KO power, I kinda feel the best he can HOPE for is a narrow UD.
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Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni View PostAnd if Bowe had fought those guys he wouldn't be talked about as a "What If". We'd be talkingabout him like Dempsey, Foreman, Wilder: one of the greatest champions of Boxing history.
Wilder is not a great champion in history Rusty...He may be one day. And Bowe could not beat golota, yet he would dust off guys Frazier fought?
your really stretching credability here.
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Originally posted by billeau2 View PostNo... Bowe did it to himself and he would have done the same. It does not even have to do with what Bowe could have achieved. If you think this through you will see that some fighters always have their self as the most powerful opponent.
Wilder is not a great champion in history Rusty...He may be one day. And Bowe could not beat golota, yet he would dust off guys Frazier fought?
your really stretching credability here.
Wilder's KO streak is legendary. It took the best fighter to ever lace up gloves to finally put an end to it.
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Originally posted by Rusty Tromboni View PostSo now Frazier fights like Golota?
Wilder's KO streak is legendary. It took the best fighter to ever lace up gloves to finally put an end to it.
In a sense we can compare a lot of fighters to Golota, because he is essentially a very talented, very basic fighter. In this respect we can look at Frazier, a guy who was better than Golota, especially at pressuring an opponent (which is what Golota did to Bowe) and use Golota as a yardstick...certainly.
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This is that classic great big man vs. a great small man scenario. Frazier often took too many punches; Bowe would have proven too powerful for Frazier (just as Foreman did) and Frazier would catch too many early on. Bowe by an early TKO, two to four rounds.
On the other hand, Ali would have coasted to an easy 15 UD against Bowe. It's that whole "styles make fights" thing.
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Originally posted by Willie Pep 229 View PostThis is that classic great big man vs. a great small man scenario. Frazier often took too many punches; Bowe would have proven too powerful for Frazier (just as Foreman did) and Frazier would catch too many early on. Bowe by an early TKO, two to four rounds.
Frazier has DumDum gutted and spit roasted by 10.
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Easy win for bowe best hw inside fighter of all time joe was to small and out of date he would be destroyed for anybody who said joe are crazy
Comparing to George is odd bowe was more dangerous he had way better tech and use of angles and able to hurt people easier then george
Bowe fought and beat holy the best all around hw fighter it ever was who was better skilled then anybody joe foughtLast edited by Ascended; 09-28-2022, 07:01 PM.
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Originally posted by moneytheman View PostEasy win for bowe best hw inside fighter of all time joe was to small and out of date he would be destroyed for anybody who said joe are crazy
Comparing to George is odd bowe was more dangerous he had way better tech and use of angles and able to hurt people easier then george
Bowe fought and beat holy the best all around hw fighter it ever was who was better skilled then anybody joe fought
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