Would Holyfield be considered a small HW today?

[Rusty Tromboni]

No. Deontay Wilder came in at 209 against Fury. Usyk is no bigger than Holyfield was.

Wilder weighs ~210, like Holyfield weighed in at 190.

When Wilder isn't worried about VADA he makes 220 easily.

In Holyfield's era he could have been even more brazen in his PED abuse.

[uncle ben]

He looked like he was chiseled out of granite but he was 6'2" and between 209-215 lbs in his prime years at HW.

Would he be seen as undersized today?

Probably. People thought he was too small back in the early 90s. But prime Holyfield, all 6'2 209 pounds of him would be cleaning house today.

[QueensburyRules]

He looked like he was chiseled out of granite but he was 6'2" and between 209-215 lbs in his prime years at HW.

Would he be seen as undersized today?

- -Undersized then, so why U asking now?

Could he pass a VADA test?

[The Old LefHook]

Any guy who is a contender for the best body in the history of the sport is an automatic suspect these days. Holyfield and Griffith would both be prime suspects.

[Rusty Tromboni]

Any guy who is a contender for the best body in the history of the sport is an automatic suspect these days. Holyfield and Griffith would both be prime suspects.

Griffith, of course, fought in an era when PED abuse was nascent at best.

I do believe amphetemines played a big part back in the day. And guys did dirty sh.it, like remove the padding from their gloves, etc.

But Holyfield came of age when PED abuse was at its peak, and kind of encourage. Even if only implicitly. I saw how my brother was provided it in college. It was just expected that you were taking if you were serious about your future.

Common sense suggests that a 190 lb. man shouldn't easily pack on 30 pounds, AND become faster and improve his endurance.

[Anthony342]

A small heavyweight? Only by the size queens out there.

[QueensburyRules]

Probably. People thought he was too small back in the early 90s. But prime Holyfield, all 6'2 209 pounds of him would be cleaning house today.

- -He be U maid today!

[NORMNEALON]

He looked like he was chiseled out of granite but he was 6'2" and between 209-215 lbs in his prime years at HW.

Would he be seen as undersized today?

He wasnt big in the 90s either so my answer would be YES sir .

[them_apples]

Holyfield was small back in his day as well, he was just strong and determined.

He started at 175. He seemed to be built well in the neck and head, which sort of allowed him to compete at heavyweight.

His size was completely normal, there's footage of him sparring Andy Ruiz, he appears a bit bigger and taller, obviously weighing less because Ruiz is fat.

This weight topic gets discussed way too much but uninformed noobs, especially about heavyweights. as if this is a body building contest.

We have so much factual evidence that being the heaviest doesnt make you the best, yet its still a huge topic.

Michael Moorer, a light heavyweight, moved up and knocked out a 6 ft 10 fighter, thats right, bigger than Fury. Simple because hes a better fighter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Q6s3i3p8ww&t=486s

this mike White dude is 6 ft 10 and 275 lbs, Michael Moorer knocked him silly and Moorer was coming up from light heavy

[them_apples]

Griffith, of course, fought in an era when PED abuse was nascent at best.

I do believe amphetemines played a big part back in the day. And guys did dirty sh.it, like remove the padding from their gloves, etc.

But Holyfield came of age when PED abuse was at its peak, and kind of encourage. Even if only implicitly. I saw how my brother was provided it in college. It was just expected that you were taking if you were serious about your future.

Common sense suggests that a 190 lb. man shouldn't easily pack on 30 pounds, AND become faster and improve his endurance.

well he didnt become faster and improve his endurance. his endurance was better at 175 as was his overall ability. What was surprising was his ability to not lose much moving up in weight.

qawi was his toughest fight at 175, and at 175 qawi was a beast. Holyfield fought great competition at heavyweight, but he also lost to them as well. Even his fight with Holmes, if watched with an educated eye, is a bit suspect.

in fact most of Holyfields fame came from his mentality, he a had a lot fo tough fights at heavyweight that he won on determination and conditioning. Michael Moore (which he lost), Bert Cooper, Foreman....then close fights with Bowe, Holmes and Lewis (he was past prime by then). It's the Tyson wins that really propel Holyfields fame, but in truth I think any above average heavyweight would have edged Tyson at that point in his career. too much ******* his heart was gone.

So while Holyfield has a great oldschool resume, he didn't clean house at heavyweight - he was just really good, especially for a former light heavyweight.