Greater Fighter Lomachenko or Robinson

[ShoulderRoll]

My bad. I will apologize for cluttering the board responding to this idiot.


I'll leave it be. I apologize to you and the rest of the history section for engaging this idiot.

Billeau2 clutters up the board by actually trying to have a serious discussion about this imbecile's "points."

You serve as a good antidote I think.

[PAC-BOY]

Oh, my bad, I think I remember who Pacman is... he's the guy who does his own stunts right?



Or... is he that comedian from the Hangover movies?

That would be my second guess.

Wow. Now i understand why you made this bumbazz thread. You really dont know shlt about boxing.
Hell you dont even know who Manny Pacquiao is. Awww... you poor thing. Now i won't be as hard on you because you are a legitement dumbshlt. You dont even know how to use google do you. You have to guess at things.

[travestyny]

Billeau2 clutters up the board by actually trying to have a serious discussion about this imbecile's "points."

You serve as a good antidote I think.

lol. Thanks, bro.


Billeau hits me as a gentle giant type. With his karate stories, in my head he can put that Bart Simpson touch of death on someone if he really wanted to, but he's peaceful by nature and just wants to be civil to everyone. The racist idiot Rusty isn't worthy of such behavior, but it is what it is I suppose. Billeau probably tries to find the humanity in everyone, even a slimy reptilian bltch like Rusty.

[Rusty Tromboni]

Donaire lost his last fight because he could not keep up to the younger fresher guy. His age was a big factor in that fight.

Not only did you dodge my question, per usual. But you felt so helpless that you had to resort to Donaire's bout with Inoue. That reeks of desperation.

I actually though Donaire made a great account of himself. Inoue impressed me, too. Sure, it showed Inoue had been over-hyped, and Donaire was probably never as good as we wanted to believe he could be. But both men fought hard and fought well.

But how that has relevance on a fight that happned 6 years before, well again... you've left me a bit confused.

Not many men have looked as capable as Rigo did that night.

Rigondeax lost that fight because he was no longer in his prime a much smaller man older and rusty. If both fighters were in their prime and the same natural size Lomo could win but that win would be hard earned. What we ended up with was a gross mismatch for the reasons I gave.

You haven't given any reasons, just suggestions. Please, articulate to me in what ways Loma's supposed size and age advantage resulted in Rigo's loss.

I like you, Tony. You're a good guy. I respect you, which I cannot say about many around here.

So let me throw you a bone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0FoUrdcoWU

That explains it. You were seeing a disparity in skill and intellect.

and you certainly can't find any footage of Ray Robinson looking that good. Not in hundreds of matches against hopeless opponents did Ray ever demonstrate that level of skill.

[Rusty Tromboni]

Wow. Now i understand why you made this bumbazz thread. You really dont know shlt about boxing.
Hell you dont even know who Manny Pacquiao is. Awww... you poor thing. Now i wont be as hard on you because you are a legitement dumbshlt. You dont even know how to use google do you. You have to guess at things.

So he's not the guy from the Chris Tucker movies?

[PAC-BOY]

So he's not the guy from the Chris Tucker movies?

try google. You do know what that is. Do i have to teach you everything?

[TonyGe]

Not only did you dodge my question, per usual. But you felt so helpless that you had to resort to Donaire's bout with Inoue. That reeks of desperation.

I actually though Donaire made a great account of himself. Inoue impressed me, too. Sure, it showed Inoue had been over-hyped, and Donaire was probably never as good as we wanted to believe he could be. But both men fought hard and fought well.

But how that has relevance on a fight that happned 6 years before, well again... you've left me a bit confused.

Not many men have looked as capable as Rigo did that night.



You haven't given any reasons, just suggestions. Please, articulate to me in what ways Loma's supposed size and age advantage resulted in Rigo's loss.

I like you, Tony. You're a good guy. I respect you, which I cannot say about many around here.

So let me throw you a bone:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0FoUrdcoWU

That explains it. You were seeing a disparity in skill and intellect.

and you certainly can't find any footage of Ray Robinson looking that good. Not in hundreds of matches against hopeless opponents did Ray ever demonstrate that level of skill.

We aren't taking about Ray Robinson right now we are talking about Lomo and Rigondeaux. Speaking of Ray and deflection, you never answered my question of who I didn't see fight out the fighters that I never mentioned as you claimed.

[billeau2]

Billeau2 clutters up the board by actually trying to have a serious discussion about this imbecile's "points."

You serve as a good antidote I think.

lol. Thanks, bro.


Billeau hits me as a gentle giant type. With his karate stories, in my head he can put that Bart Simpson touch of death on someone if he really wanted to, but he's peaceful by nature and just wants to be civil to everyone. The racist idiot Rusty isn't worthy of such behavior, but it is what it is I suppose. Billeau probably tries to find the humanity in everyone, even a slimy reptilian bltch like Rusty.

Lol thanks for the points raised. Shoulder we all have different levels of sensativity towards comments people make. As crazy as it sounds, given where and the way I was raised, I actually have a fair bit of hostility towards racial insensative remarks directed towards individuals of color...I mean that is whom I grew up with. I literally got sick at the sight of a restaurant in New Orleans, the famous Camelia Grill where black waiters dressed in antibellium finery, replete with appropriate dialogue serve up the fare. I took one look and told my wife and friends I would wait in the car.

So I want you to understand that on an emotional level I am bothered by these remarks...No I don't know on a proverbial scale, how that compares to being an individual of color... But there is empathy. But one must ask how much do we lose, and how much do we gain responding from an emotional place, when language is abused? I don't mean you are displaying outward signs, don't misunderstand my point here. i mean that it bothers you when some things are said.

My consideration, when someone skips over the line at times, and is not an individual like Freedom, who was an example of a racist through and through, is what does that individual otherwise contribute to the dialogue?

You don't like Rusty and he says some things that the mods have to look at occasionally, but in general he contributes to the discussions. He can be a HEAL! But so was Mayweather! lol. A heal can be good to have around...He can also be a contrarian, which to me can be a good thing as well. He does raise some good issues... when he is not making LOMA threads! lol.

I honestly think if you thought it through, you would see that you despise Rusty more for his opinions than his occasional off color remarks... I had the same feelings about Elroy BTW... for what it is worth.

T you are on the mark as usual. Indeed... If there is something good about a person I do try. Life is just too short to do otherwise.

[billeau2]

Sympathy for the devil...errr the Rusty Trombone.

I do not believe one can say Loma is comparable to Ray Robinson... that is not my point here. However, this guy makes cogent points as to why Loma, can be compared to all times greats.

So Rusty may be getting a little ahead of himself to some, but there is some logic to looking at LOMA in distinguished company.

Some good points made:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd12y7Fr-aU

[PAC-BOY]

I do not believe one can say Loma is comparable to Ray Robinson... that is not my point here. However, this guy makes cogent points as to why Loma, can be compared to all times greats.

So Rusty may be getting a little ahead of himself to some, but there is some logic to looking at LOMA in distinguished company.

Some good points made:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd12y7Fr-aU

Lets put Rusty aside for a moment. We all know hes a dumb shlt.
Here is why Loma as of NOW should NOT be compared to the greats and especially SRR. (WTF lol)
Because hes only had 15 fights as a pro. 6 years as a pro. And granted he is one of if not the most talented fighter ive seen in many years he just does not have the years experience AS A PROFESSIONAL FIGHTER to be compared to the late greats and the living greats.
It does not diminish is talent at all. Just keep it up and surely he will be compared rightfully. For all we know he could lose his next 5 fights or 10 out of next 20 fights. Who knows. And will his first 15 fights cement him as one of the best then? Dont think so.
We have all seen fighters rise and fall. On occasion we see then Rise and rise and rise and never fall and some stumble back and come back to rise again. Some also have short lived successes and never come back. So NO. With only 15 fights and one being a loss and only 6 yrs as a pro...to soon. Amateurs and Pros are two different mountains to climb!